HTP Invertig 160 DC

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Pit Man

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I'm looking at this used welder for some small projects I have. No aluminum welding, pretty much all carbon steel 3/16" and less. Anybody have experience with this welder? The guy wants $800 and it has all the leads and foot pedal.No argon bottle.
 
   / HTP Invertig 160 DC #2  
they are an awesome machine. Great tech support. Good price too.
 
   / HTP Invertig 160 DC #3  
Specs look good. May be a little high on price but it's full featured for a non AC unit, Not bad.
 
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I agree with yomax4. It's a little high priced. I believe it's an Italian unit, but it's been discontinued from the looks of it. Looks like they replaced it with a 130/140 amp machine...from China.
 
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I agree with yomax4. It's a little high priced. I believe it's an Italian unit, but it's been discontinued from the looks of it. Looks like they replaced it with a 130/140 amp machine...from China.

It's not good to be seriously mis-informed about other manufacturers products.
 

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It's not good to be seriously mis-informed about other manufacturers products.

Well, I am not that misinformed. I made an educated guess based off of several things: Right off the bat I see several tell tale characteristics of Chinese inverters, 1) The flat simple hole punched venting, which is not considered safe for the US with water ingress protection... It would not pass US or Canadian standards for sure. There are several Chinese factories that use similar, if not exact panel and design as well. 2) The Chinese power switch and same type cooling fins we use in some of our equipment is visible from the rear. 3) HTP is sourcing some of their product from China. It's not a huge leap. 3) They were looking at carrying some of the same equipment we have sold as far as TIG welders from one of the same factories. 4) Italy has been known to slap the covers together on Chinese product and call it "made in Italy", which is still frequently done, especially on lower cost equipment, and they outsource most of their components electronic wise, and most of it is from China on their more expensive equipment. I've seen pictures from some of the Chinese factories, with welders going out to some European countries, with temporary, returnable acrylic covers on the product so the final assembly could be completed in that country so that it could be called "made in XXXX". European laws are kind of lax on that...either that or they just get away with it.
 
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I think you should carefully reread my post... I did NOT definitively say it was Chinese, and used the qualifiers "looks" twice.. It means appears, or resembles etc. It does not definitively say "IS". I think I probably know a good bit more about the industry than the average person. I was trying to be helpful to the OP about another product in question, not the one you decided to pick a fight over. What was YOUR motive? What did you stand to gain? What was your point? Did you help the OP or give him any useful information? Hmmmm...
 
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I think you should carefully reread my post... I did NOT definitively say it was Chinese, and used the qualifiers "looks" twice.. It means appears, or resembles etc. It does not definitively say "IS". I think I probably know a good bit more about the industry than the average person. I was trying to be helpful to the OP about another product in question, not the one you decided to pick a fight over. What was YOUR motive? What did you stand to gain? What was your point? Did you help the OP or give him any useful information? Hmmmm...

Maybe you should reread your original post which states "... from China". Seems that your subsequent post is back pedaling now that you have been caught. Doesn't give one a good impression about your honesty.

I have no issue with your Chinese welders and I seriously considered one when I bought my HTP.

My issue is dealers who "knock" other manufacturers for their own gain.
 
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I think anyone reading what I said, with basic English reading comprehension skills would see that the statement I made was not intentionally misleading and certainly not dogmatic or lying. That's something I don't do and never have done intentionally. I was raised better than that.

Now I have nothing to gain, just as Yomax who is affiliated with Thermal Arc has nothing to gain here.

You arrogantly assume that I was trying to knock someone else's product and that I am a "dealer"...which I am not. In fact the product the only thing I said was about the price...not the product itself. Again, reading comprehension skill issues and reasoning are lacking here.

Where did I knock it or try to do anything of the sort? I sell Chinese product so, how is me mentioning that the product "looked" like it was from China knocking it? That's faulty logic...unless I'm trying to degrade the product I sell too. I've dealt with dozens of factories in China wanting our business....and I've seen a similar/same product, and that was the sole reason I mentioned it looked like it was from...China.

First you accuse me of NOT knowing my competition better, then say in the same breath that I am lying. Now, either I made an outright lie, or made a misjudgement of it's origin. It can't be both...but you claim it so. Lying conveys intent...and I assure you there was none here to intentionally mislead. Especially when there are plenty of HTP customers out there that can do exactly what you did.

As far as backpedaling, HUH? I gave my explanation, and my knowledge of the industry and how Italy operates and works with China...And that HTP was working with one of our factories at a point...

Please, you are trolling at this point. I am glad you bought from HTP ...but you aren't doing HTP any favors at this point with the trolling. It's obvious to me and a good many people here that you are playing a game of "gotcha"...and not trying to contribute to this thread. Either that or you have the huge chip on your shoulders.
 
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Some need a time machine to go back to 1920 :p
 
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With the way things are today, you can't go by what anything says as far as country of manufacture. Half the time it's where final assembly took place. Other times it will say made in so and so to OEM specs. The other common one is assembled in xxxx from globally sourced parts. In most cases I think it's designed to be misleading. Remember when anything built in Japan used to be considered junk? Today, most stuff made in Japan is top of the line, especially electronics. The one I get a kick out of is Irwin claiming the new vise grips made in China as original. They might be the same, they might even be better but they certainly aren't the original that were made in the USA. As far as people not liking stuff made in China, if it was made in in N. America it might be double the cost and they'd complain about that.
 
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Mark, I can't compete with your verbose soliloquy. You win :)

Bye
 
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I am Confused ?? Mark Said he Believed it to be Europe / Italian and Said that it Appears that HTP may have change to a different model and manufacturing location . Why is " orezok " all wadded up ?? Did not bad mouth HTP , I am Just like " Wow " , Were is that coming from ?

My experience with USA weld , who is either just a dealer of HTP or ??? , Has only been the purchase of .035 Flux core wire . Found the price of the wire and the dependability of the wire to be better than any thing I can get locally , including the name brand wire .

I Think Mark is a pretty Stand Up Guy , Although I have never met him in person , His Contributions to this Board with His Thoughts and Experiences really help those of Us who are weekend hacks at best :)

( And No I don't own any Everlast Products , I own a Lincoln SP135 and a Longevity migweld 200S )


Fred H.
 
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So you're happy with your Chinese tractor?
 
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Chinese Tractor ??? I would have to say My New Holland is about as American as your Kubota is . Are You another one of the type that only buy " American ASSEMBLED " :) .

I truck for a living , so Know first hand were many of these so called " U.S. Assembled " products originate from . Anything with a circuit board in it , is NOT entirely made in the U.S. , as those circuit boards are made overseas . So , Although the product was ASSEMBLED in the U.S. , it is still a overseas product . Even basic things like steel are being imported as both Portland , OR. and Seattle / Tacoma area's are huge export ports for recycled steel to be refined into new steel for ????? whatever .

Face it , If You take everything out of your house that was not 100 % " Made " , ( not assembled , but actually made ) in the U.S. , your house and even yourself would be pretty bare .

Fred H.
 
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I think Mark just needed a ? after he wrote from China to indicate he wasn't sure. His explanation of how things are built and the fact he sells machines made in China supports this.
 
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Dang, I feel i need to say something, but I have nothing. kinda like what has already been said.
 
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Mark said " I believe it's an Italian unit, but it's been discontinued from the looks of it. Looks like they replaced it with a 130/140 amp machine...from China.


Crappy Yellow LOOKS LIKE
 
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Well, let’s set the record straight. None of the MIG Welders, TIG Welders or Plasma Cutters HTP America currently sells or has ever sold were ever made in China. The machine in question has been discontinued - the main reason it was discontinued was we found most people who purchase a TIG welder want to weld aluminum. A DC TIG machine will not weld aluminum. It was not replaced with anything and it was certainly not replaced with a 130/140 amp machine from China.

Different HTP products are built in different countries. The Invertig 160DC was built in Italy. The PC boards were designed and built in house. The PC boards were not built in China and then sent to Italy to be installed in the machine.
 

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