Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke)

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For those who read my post on my L48 subframe here is an email I sent to kubota corporate. They sent it back to my Regional Sales Manager, the one who makes the 1000.00 offer, just a coincidence the cash rebate was 1000.00. The email is too large to put in this post so you have to read it in two...

Kubota L48 TLB Serial #
The beginning of last May I contacted my salesman (Neil Follett at Goodrich Implement in Johnson City, NY) and sent him pictures of my subframe which had filled with water over the winter and hydro-formed splitting the top of the frame open. The frame has no rust or damage and no way for water to enter the frame. He advised me he was sending the pics to his Rep and not to use the tractor for any heavy work. Neil contacted me to let me know engineers at Kubota were going to look at the pics for advisement. I stayed in contact with Neil who would contact the Rep (Chuck) for progress reports. Weeks went by and I received a phone call from Chuck after I asked Neil to have him call me and he advised the same, don稚 work the tractor until he hears from Kubota. FOUR MONTHS go by of the same, I kept checking in with Neil who would contact Chuck and no results. Finally I speak with both Neil and Chuck who both state the frame has to be replaced and because the tractor is 5 ス years old there is nothing Kubota will do for me. I expressed my concerns to Chuck that there was no way I could have caused this damage, after inspection of the sub frame there is not so much as even a pin hole in it. He extended himself and got $850.00 toward a new sub frame, a sub frame costs $2500.00. I ordered the new sub frame on August 28th. It came in on Sept. 13th and I picked it up at closing time. When I got it home (I知 almost an hour away from Goodrich) I could see clearly it was the wrong frame. The part # on the crate was correct, the frame belongs to a B model. Neil ordered the frame again and I was told it will be about a week. Week goes by and I call parts at Goodrich (Walt) and he makes a phone call. He痴 told a new delivery date of one more week. That week goes by and I call Walt who calls Kubota and the delivery date is extended again by two weeks. Long story short, it finally arrives on Nov. 7th. Six months on the homestead without my tractor. Granted there is no loss of income, It is totally for personal use on my own property but now we are buried in over two feet of the white stuff so the fields never got bush hogged, the orchards didn稚 get maintained, the drainage ditches are almost full. I had to rent a tractor to get our firewood supply since we heat totally with wood. On top of all that, the hydraulic pump started failing at only 800 hrs. to a tune of $849.48, would have been Nine hundred something but Neil felt bad for me and gave me a discount. After installing the new sub frame I was moving the old frame and I picked it up with my B2620. I noticed drops coming from the welds as the frame was stood up and could see water coming from the welds, even on the good side that wasn稚 hydro-formed. The weld looks perfect, the paint looks perfect, and water is pushing through it. I took it to Homer Iron works which is our local experts to have anything welded. They advised me it is 澱ad welds? I wanted a second opinion so I took it to Essex Steel who manufacture Steel buildings. They also advise 澱ad welds? I took pics of them and sent them to Neil who I知 sure sent them to Chuck and obviously it went nowhere. I again had Neil have Chuck call me and he advised he was going to try and get me some money towards a new tractor since I had expressed interest in either a L6060 with cab or M7060 with cab and he would have the Sales Rep call me. This was quite a bit before your Kubota Conference in Tennessee. Numerous times I have called Neil to have Chuck call me and have not received anything. It has been the same with the sales Rep, Neil has both called and emailed both Chuck and the sales Rep and nothing. Yesterday, Neil sent me an email stating he had called the Rep directly and the Sales Rep is offering $1000.00 toward an L or M series tractor.
 
   / Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke)
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(second half of email)
$1000.00? First of all, after this whole experience and going six months without my Kubota I have to ponder whether I should invest in Kubota again or not. Second, the L48 wasn’t my first Kubota. I also have a B model and a RTV, and had a L4150 that the L48 replaced. I know that a few Kubota’s under one owner probably means nothing to a huge corporation but I’ve always been hooked on the reliability of my machines and the security of knowing you back your products. This all comes into question now. The problems with my B2620 is also a factor. My loader arms were replaced due to the cylinder brace wasn’t welded in the correct location. Chuck did a super job with that. My transmission dipstick still to this day when you pull it for the first time the stick is dry, the second time it will register. When it registers, it is always a different level. I’ve talked to Chuck several times on this issue, he’s stumped and there is no results. I’ve priced both green and red tractors, dealers for both of these are right up the street. Truthfully, I love my Kubota’s but I’m not going through what I just went through with my L48 and it’s insulting to come in with an offer of $1000.00 towards a new one. With all due respect, I’d like to receive a phone call from someone higher up on the chain of command on this issue. I’m tired of having to call my salesman to have one Rep or another call me. You should also know that my salesman has been absolutely wonderful through this whole ordeal doing whatever he could to help as usual. In fact, he is the reason I have always purchased from Goodrich Implement instead of a closer dealer. Every time since 1992 I have had an issue mechanically or anything else Neil has straightened me out over the phone. He goes above and beyond.
 
   / Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke) #3  
Paragraphing is your friend.

Lots of folks will determine TL=DR.
 
   / Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke) #4  
Sorry to hear of the trouble, that must be hugely frustrating!
 
   / Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke) #5  
Subscribed.

Keep us posted. Hope you have a good outcome.
 
   / Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke)
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Frustrating isn't the word. After the email response I wrote back explaining the regional sales manager was the 1000.00 offer and they just sent it back to him. I requested to speak to someone in Corporate and never heard anything back..........still waiting but after all this really don't expect to hear from anyone.
 
   / Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke) #7  
I suspect you're right. This is a case where your dealer is everything. Your dealer has to go to bat for you. Corporate could care less about the individual customer, they care about their dealers. Your dealer has to care about satisfying a customer, even when it means fighting corporate.
 
   / Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke) #8  
I suspect you're right. This is a case where your dealer is everything. Your dealer has to go to bat for you. Corporate could care less about the individual customer, they care about their dealers. Your dealer has to care about satisfying a customer, even when it means fighting corporate.

Very true! I hope that Kubota makes good on it.
 
   / Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke) #9  
I suppose you could sue them if the certified welder would testify.
 
   / Huge Disappointment Kubota Fans, (L48 Subframe Broke)
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Well, got a call from the Regional Sales Rep yesterday. Not sure if this is the same gentleman that has been avoiding me for months or not and relayed the 1000.00 offer through my salesman but I'm assuming it is. My salesman said a little over a week ago he was going around the red tape and it must have worked. The offer is 2500.00 and I have to go through my dealer here, can't go out of state to someplace like, lets say "Kentucky". I make the deal and then the 2500 is taken off of that. My daughter lives near Barlow's, I'm in upstate NY so I had her get a quote there, fantastic price and I'm anxious to see how this all unfolds. The 2500 means nothing if the offer isn't much under retail, my salesman has done all right in the past so we'll see how it goes.
 

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