HVLP painting gun question

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Jay4200

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I'm thinking of getting an inexpensive HVLP spray gun for a little tractor-resto work. The gravity-feed HF guns have gotten glowing reviews. They sell two, one with a regulator and one without:

Gravity Feed Spray Gun - 20 Oz. HVLP

HVLP Spray Gun w/ Gravity Feed

Any comments on which would be better? Is the on-board regulator necessary or at least useful? What are the advantages/disadvantages of either?

Thanks - JayC
 
   / HVLP painting gun question #2  
i personally dislike the gravity feed guns and prefer the screw on cups as I paint a few odd angles sometimes that makes a gravity gun leak from the top of the cup. however price range is similar. I don't own a paint gun that cost over 24$

I have a CH pressure gun, a 4 oz syphon touch up gun.. an old gun i use for primer, plus a new ' industrial' quality I use for paint.. most of mine are syphon ( I like them for some reason ).. but do use 1 hvlp as well. all aly paint.. the syphon use more air.

you need a regulator either on the gun or at the compressor.. so you can set air pressure.

don't be fooled. even a 15$ gun can make a great looking paint job. it has more to do with the prep and technique, then the gun or the paint.

as I've said many times over on other antique boards.

26$/gallon paint sprayed thru a 15$ gun via a 3hp / 3og / 1 stage 150$ air compressor, onto tin that has had 40 hrs of prep work and elbow grease will give you a better looking paint job than 200$/gallon hot rod car paint, sprayed thru a 250$ binks gun, via a 900$ 5 hp / 60g 2 stage compressor, onto tin that's had 20 hours of prep work.


soundguy
 
   / HVLP painting gun question #3  
I'm one that's on the side of HVLP gravity feed guns. Siphon cup guns will dribble paint when held at odd angle also, through the vent on top of the cup. Trick is with ANY gun, keep 'em back away from your target when holding gun at weird angles... It's all what you get used to...

I have a couple "Huskee" guns (Home Depot) that were around $60. Also have a Sharpe platinum gun that was around $300 IIRC. The more expensive guns seem to handle "high tech" paints and finish's with a little more consistency, but as Chris eluded, it's MORE about technique....Practice...Practice...Practice....

I compare paint guns to golf clubs...Not every club fits the style of every golfer. Same applies with paint guns. Find yourself an automotive paint vendor if you can, and let them walk you through the various types of guns. You're under no obligation to buy one, just let 'em know you're "shopping" but maybe not BUYING....Most will be glad to show you the ropes.

A reg is essential. I DO NOT like 'em hanging on the gun. Extra weight can be cumbersome after prolonged use. I have a reg on my compressor, and will sometimes put one in line, a hose length away from the gun when I feel the need to "micro manage" air pressures. (when painting large surfaces AND small parts at the same time)

Get a GOOD water trap.

Make certain your compressor has enough cfm's to keep up with the gun. There's another BIG plus with HVLP guns....Lower air usage. HVLP guns will also cut down considerably on paint usage with a LOT less over spray. MOST of your paint will land "on target" as opposed to settling on the floor.

Get a GOOD mask, use proper ventilation. I have some symptoms of asthma which ISN't asthma....It's the effects of icocyanites (sp?) the catalyst in paint hardeners. It took ONE SINGLE EXPOSURE, less than 10 minutes......Some people are FAR MORE prone to the effects. Once you find out you're one of the lucky ones, it's already too late.

Get yourself an old car hood, or some similar piece of sheet metal. Practice on that. Try your paint/thinner/hardener mix.....Try your technique....Better to mess up that than the hood on your prized antique tractor......BTDT, sanded off a few horrible runs.....


Prep is EVERYTHING as Chris stated. Paint is NEVER any better than the surface it's applied to. CLEAN everything.

Tip of the day....NEVER allow ArmorAll NEAR your paint shop....Trust me on that one. Leads to heartbreaking results, let me tell ya...
 
   / HVLP painting gun question #4  
ditto that 100%

especially the water trap. Do also drain your comp regularly ( should be anyway ).

aslo.. have a set of dedicated hoses you use for painting IF you have an oiler inline.

IE.. don't use hoses that have had oil run thru them.. and do not use an oiler with the paint gun ;) that's when you will get to learn about fisheyes and such... same with FWJ's armor all comment.. silicone makes great paint dispersant...

soundguy
 
   / HVLP painting gun question #6  
That reminds me, I have to try out my princess auto $12 sale touch up gun...
 
   / HVLP painting gun question
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you need a regulator either on the gun or at the compressor.. so you can set air pressure.

Obviously, but can a compressor regulator do the job adequately? What kinds of pressures do HVLP guns run normally?

I have a fairly nice gun out in the garage, although I've only done one major project with it (painted a 35' trailer frame), but I have never used an HVLP gun.

JayC
 
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Id get the reg on the gun on these cheap clones they dont last forever. A good reg is twice to 3 times what that whole package is so you are not getting hurt at all.

Plus they run at such low pres 30-35 its better to have it on the gun and be done so you can right away go paint something!

HVLP is the only way to paint now days especially when automotive paints and 2k primers and 3-4 part urethane clears etc can get up to and over $600 a gallon you want every drop on the car etc not in the air or floor. :thumbsup:
 
   / HVLP painting gun question #9  
the reg on the gun makes it a bit clunkier. and how much quality is a reg on a super cheap gun.. it's likely only an orifice setup anyway.

the reg on my compressor works FINE for painting.

soundguy
 
   / HVLP painting gun question #10  
Farmwithjunk; said:
..I have a couple "Huskee" guns (Home Depot) that were around $60...

I have used these guns a couple of times now too, but I found that I had to set the regulator to 35 to 40 psi to get the gun to work properly. Not sure why they are called HVLP. :confused2:
 

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