hyd control valve on 3 pt

[rScotty]

wow ! just googled several brands. Kubota, Kioti, mahindra, LS and JD.. They all had issues.
I believe one could google xxxx Tractor issues /problems and what ever tractor you inserted would come back with complaints.

What's a guy to do ? You can't google any brand, without some type of issue: HYD, DPF, engine, transmission, loader, 3 pt lift, etc, .

I wonder if part of what we are seeing today in the tractor market is just what happens when new designs are driven by the home owner consumer market instead of the traditional agriculature market. Those old Yanmars - even the little 13.5 hp models - were originally designed for doing real work on small farms on difficult terrain. They had to work for a living, and a 35 year old Yanmar is still up to the task. In their old age they get retro-fitted with a loader for retirement chores, and they'll still be around pretty much unchanged decades from now.

You can see the same thing in old US farm tractors; they last forever too. But since the US farms were larger, our old farm tractors are just too big to be as handy as compacts. Mowing the lawn with the old 2 cylinder JD is a bit of a chore even with power steering.
rScotty

 

[California]

Stay with old simple reliable, time proven designs! haha. No electronic diesel controls, no filters and sensors that derate your engine cause they don't like whats coming out of the pipe.

Add to that no fuel lift pump, no fuel shutoff solenoid needed when you have a compression release for emergency shutoff, a $20 manifold pre-heater instead of a glow plug in each cylinder, a mechanical tachometer, some models that cool fine with no water pump, and my favorite - instructions for owner-maintenance of the injectors with a wooden stick and mutton tallow.

Apparent simplicity, made possible by elegant design.

 

[clemsonfor]

Add to that no fuel lift pump, no fuel shutoff solenoid needed when you have a compression release for emergency shutoff, a $20 manifold pre-heater instead of a glow plug in each cylinder, a mechanical tachometer, some models that cool fine with no water pump, and my favorite - instructions for owner-maintenance of the injectors with a wooden stick and mutton tallow.

Apparent simplicity, made possible by elegant design.

Yep all of that too. I just didn't go on and on! Simplicity is the best option especially something that may sit a month or three between startups.

 

[rScotty]

....... owner-maintenance of the injectors with a wooden stick and mutton tallow.

what?

 

[California]

It's in the YM240 Service Manual, paragraph on periodic maintenance of the injectors.

Scraping out carbon without damaging the sealing surfaces.

 

[clemsonfor]

It's in the YM240 Service Manual, paragraph on periodic maintenance of the injectors.

How about the part about changing the filter ever other oil change!!! Most of us would never even think about doing that for the $5 or less one costs . But I would imagine filters are easier and cheaper to cone by than in rural Japan 35 years ago.

 

[California]

Seems to me that the less frequent filter change is because there's no dust in rice paddy work.

Extreme contrast: some early big ag tractors specified daily oil changes! Several gallons.

Clemsonfor, do loggers simply dump on the ground when they do an oil change back in the woods? I found this near our mining claim with the equipment still parked nearby so there was no doubt who did it. Because it is national forest there had to be a government inspector visiting occasionally. Apparently the loggers had no fear of pollution fines.

 

[clemsonfor]

Seems to me that the less frequent filter change is because there's no dust in rice paddy work.

Extreme contrast: some early big ag tractors specified daily oil changes! Several gallons.

Clemsonfor, do loggers simply dump on the ground when they do an oil change back in the woods? I found this near our mining claim with the equipment still parked nearby so there was no doubt who did it. Because it is national forest there had to be a government inspector visiting occasionally. Apparently the loggers had no fear of pollution fines.

NO!!! and that is not just my PC answer!

What year was that? Late 90s at the latest maybe? They use 5 gallon buckets to catch it all. Of course there is drips and spills like when they miss the bucket or swap a bucket but 99.5% of it is caught probably. If I catch something intentionally spilled I make them dig it up and take it with them...what they do with it then is their own responsibility. That said I have heard of some military installations that made them dig it all up and prove that they took it to a licensed contaminated soil dump site with a receipt. Also in the winter lots of waste oil is used to start fires and is burned off. But us in the forestry side of things burn lots of gallons of fuel , gas and waste oil in our torch fuel. Also when they bust a hose or something and send gallons of oil all over the place to me that is just part of the job, I do not make them clean that stuff up, it would be near impossible and I really think its accepted as "collateral damage" in logging. Some of these rougher loggers that run old stuff and just don't take the time to repair leaky hoses and connections will go through 5 gallons or more of 303 fluid in a day. Its so spread out though the common person never notices it. If the loader is really leaky it stains the spot it sits pretty bad.

Seriously I take intentional dumping very seriously, even more so if rain will carry it off with surface water directly to a creek. Accidental spillage that is small gets a pass, and i'm talking small spills, not like if you accidentally knocked over a 5 gallon bucket.