Hyd Top Link

DDT · Mar 15, 2001

Well Kadonte built his top link for alot less. Thanks for the idea kadonte! I built mine aswell, Show and tell isin't it! I have about $160 in it, everything is new. use a 2 x 8 cylinder. It sure works nice when added to a quick hitch, does wonders with a box blade. this board is great.

TraderMark · Mar 15, 2001

I think I'm going to have to move the hydraulic top link project for my 1720 to the TOP of my list.!!/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Looks great DDT!!!! Keep us posted on how it works.

shade2u2 · Mar 15, 2001

I assume that you already had the SCV? $160 is good... How did you fabricate it? I found a 3X8 hydraulic top link in the Surplus Center catalog (Lincoln,NE) for $199. That seems like a pretty decent price for one that you just set in place. My NH dealer quoted me $250 for the SCV (including hoses & quick connector ends) for my TC33. He says that the TC is set up for easy install of the SCV. How easy is it to install for a Buckeye with little hydraulics knowledge such as myself? How do these prices compare? Under $500 seems fair to me from what I've seen... I need to move alot of dirt this year & think that this HDT is the ticket for my box blade!

Bird · Mar 15, 2001

Looks good, Dana. Did you paint it to match tractor or buy it that color? And I assume when you say 2 x 8, you're talking about an 8" stroke. Aren't you going to add a hydraulic side link, too?

Bird

DDT · Mar 16, 2001

I got a 3x8 and tryed it, but for a 4300 it was too big around, so that's why I when to a 2x8" cylinder. cylinder cost $63. cross brand (made in Kansas) two eyelets at $6 each, $15 hired cast welding done, the rest was hose and fittings. they are red when new but mine turned green with envy. I had to get swivel elbows so the hose would flex right. The one end is cast, I cut the holes off and had a PROFESSANAL welder attacth the center block I made to the cylinder,(he had to heat both parts before it was welded) I have not welded cast. I welded the (shaft end) eyelet to a nut and then treaded a jamb nut on the shaft. jamb both nuts together, now I can repair this cylinder with no problems. I order my tractor with the 3rd SCV on it for this purpose.
Bird what do you mean by side tilt?

Bird · Mar 16, 2001

Dana, I did like LarryT and a number of other people and used a two spool valve, so I have the hydraulic top link, but also have a hydraulic side link. I put the hydraulic cylinder on the right side and moved the manually adjustable link over to the left side. So now I can tilt the blade forward and backwards, and also tilt it side to side for things like cutting a trench or putting a shoulder on a road. Of course, it won't be adjusted nearly as often as the top link, but there are times when that feature is mighty handy.

Bird

EddieW · Mar 16, 2001

Bird, what size is your side link? Where did you get it? Can you describe how the two spool valve is hooked up? Where did you get it? Is it inisde the valve housing or is it attached outside as an add-on?

Bird · Mar 17, 2001

EddieW, see my message for the complete description on 01/15/01 in the "Hydraulic Tip 'N Tilt" thread in the Kubota Owning forum, and a picture at http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfiles/2-29405-3pointcyl.JPG

The side cylinder is a 2" cylinder, 13.5" collapsed, 3.5" stroke, but I added a little bracket at the top that increased the length about 2.5". And in the picture you can also see the valve I added by mounting it on the fender just in front of the ROPS.

Bird

EddieW · Mar 17, 2001

Thanks, Bird. I found the article and picture. I remember the picture, just forgot the post. It was very informative. It sounded too familiar , though. I have projects like that. The picture was very good.

GlueGuy · Mar 19, 2001

I've got a Gearmore T&T "kit" installed on my B7500. The top link is a 2x8 and the side link is a 2x4. Works very well. A friend with a B7100 has a ylinder on both of his side links to increase the angle that he can tip. His setup works really great when you want to clean out a ditch without digging into the road crown.

Like Bird, I just switched the manually adjustable link over to the other side. In those rare instances when I need maximum tilt, I still have to get out and crank by hand.

The GlueGuy

TWINKLE_TOES · Mar 19, 2001

GlueGuy,

I have been thinking about tip and tilt for my B7500. I recall seeing some pictures of a really handsome guy on a B7500, I'm guessing that was you. What are the chances of getting some more pictures of that guy standing off to the side of the tip and tilt? I checked the Gearmore web sight and couldn't find any kits. Do you have any part numbers? Also, now that you have used it a bit is there anything you would do different? Any help will be appreciated, no hurry of coarse.
Thanks
Al

Harv · Mar 20, 2001

The top link is a 2x8 and the side link is a 2x4.

Just to flaunt my ignorance once again -- is that diameter x stroke (i.e. 2" diameter x 8" stroke)? If not, what exactly do those numbers indicate? /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif

Bird · Mar 20, 2001

Harv, I'll beat glueguy to the answer. Yes, that's diameter and stroke. The other dimension you have to be concerned with is getting the overall length, collapsed, of the cylinders right for your tractor (they actually measure them from center of pin to center of pin instead of overall length). My top link cylinder was 20" in length, 2" diameter, 8" stroke, but I had an inch cut off each end to make the collapsed length 18". The side link cylinder was 13.5" in length, 2" diameter, and 3.5" stroke, but I added a bracket at the top that increased the collapsed length a couple of inches.

Bird

Harv · Mar 20, 2001

GlueBird -

Thanks! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I've been thinking of writing a book about the things I don't know, but the publisher said they don't have that much paper. /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif

Bird · Mar 20, 2001

Harv, they already wrote the book about the things I don't know. I think they call it the Library of Congress.

Bird

GlueGuy · Mar 20, 2001

I've got the part numbers for the kit around here someplace, but I'll have to get back to you on that (I'm at work, waiting for a batch operation to finish, and the "stuff" is at home /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif).

The GlueGuy

GlueGuy · Mar 20, 2001

I think they call it the Library of Congress

I think that that's a work in progress, with no estimated time of completion.... /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif/w3tcompact/icons/cool.gif

The GlueGuy

Bird · Mar 20, 2001

Yeah, I guess it would have to be a work in progress because I'm finding more and more all the time that I don't know./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Bird

GlueGuy · Mar 21, 2001

Al,

Do you have any part numbers?

The Top&Tilt kit that's installed on my B7500 is listed as follows on my invoice:

- Gearmore model TT241-2K, 2 spool valve w/hydraulic top & side cylinder
- Gearmore model VB-170-3K ROPS mounted valve bracket assembly

The top cylinder is a 2x8 (2" bore x 8" stroke) with a length of 18". The side cylinder is a 2x4 with a length of 15.3"

The cylinders were measured collapsed center pin to center pin.

Bird,

finding more and more all the time that I don't know

That seems to be a might common ailment. In the words of another friend of mine: "There's nothing wrong with my memory, I just don't always get same day service". /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

The GlueGuy