art
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Salesmen, B. S. naw!!!! Kubota uses seperate pumps as well! An educated guess is that he might be honest, just not tractor smart! Find a new one! Wear easy to clean boots.
Hydraulic flow less in Kubota?
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Salesmen, B. S. naw!!!! Kubota uses seperate pumps as well! An educated guess is that he might be honest, just not tractor smart! Find a new one! Wear easy to clean boots.
tony Cecil
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I think a good test for you is to lunge into a pile of dirt, and simultaneously lift and curl the bucket at the same time...I find the Kubota to be slow when you do that...Easy to put up with if you don`t do a lot of loading at one time...Tony
crazyal
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Maybe you would be better off saying why you think you need the extra flow. There are situations where more would be nicer, a wood splitter comes to mind, a hydraulic post hole digger, etc.
For me it was a non issue. If the FEL is not raising up as quick as I would like I rev the motor up a little. Everything else I have that hydaulic powered are things like a chute rotator that having more would not make a difference.
Like anything else in this world somebody somewhere will put a bigger motor, more GMP of hydraulic flow, more weight, or something else to try and say "Ours is better". What you need to do as a buyer is decide which features are more important to you, what ones aren't important, and what ones make no difference in the real world.
For me it was a non issue. If the FEL is not raising up as quick as I would like I rev the motor up a little. Everything else I have that hydaulic powered are things like a chute rotator that having more would not make a difference.
Like anything else in this world somebody somewhere will put a bigger motor, more GMP of hydraulic flow, more weight, or something else to try and say "Ours is better". What you need to do as a buyer is decide which features are more important to you, what ones aren't important, and what ones make no difference in the real world.
Thanks guys great info, what would I do without this site?! As I think about what I need into the future its going to be a lot of loader work, raking, plowing, brushhogging, etc.
Crazyal, I'm glad you brought up the wood splitter and posthole digger, I could have a big use for those the more I think about it. So that's where higher flow will make a difference, is it going to be an issue on a M60 or M70? I'm assuming both models would do the job but maybe someone has experience w/those attachments and models. Would the L57 having more flow be better than the M series for those attachments? Make a difference? Didn't consider the M85 (bigger than M60/70?) seems like there's some good deals on used M series tractors, but It'd be tough to beet the 0% financing.
Again, thanks for the info.
Crazyal, I'm glad you brought up the wood splitter and posthole digger, I could have a big use for those the more I think about it. So that's where higher flow will make a difference, is it going to be an issue on a M60 or M70? I'm assuming both models would do the job but maybe someone has experience w/those attachments and models. Would the L57 having more flow be better than the M series for those attachments? Make a difference? Didn't consider the M85 (bigger than M60/70?) seems like there's some good deals on used M series tractors, but It'd be tough to beet the 0% financing.
Again, thanks for the info.
rbargeron
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Another point - Kubota's FEL valves make good use of the flow by recirculating fluid in the valve to augment the supply - results in a lower required system gpm for similar loader speed and feel. I've had several machines of different stripes - hydraulic flow has never been a deciding issue. More recently I've been noticing hydraulic snowblowers (24 gpm) - but it would take a pto wet kit for that much flow, or maybe a Hi-Flo skid steer or Tool Cat.......
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rbargeron, thanks for that reassuring info! I checked out the M85 its a bit pricier, not as many used out there vs. the M60/70, this is a big purchase, tractor should be able to do it all. The JD 4720 has 17 gpm, and its still a compact, I just trust Kubota and would like to stay orange.
art
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It would be good to know what you are comparing it too!
Some loaders you can't do two functions with at the same time at all!
CHDinCT
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ecoscaper, why are you saying the L has more flow? Here's what I get from looking at the Kubota web site. Looks like the M has higher total flow and higher flow available for implements/ remotes/3PH.
L5740
4.9 gpm Power Steering
9.8 gpm Remote/3 Pt. Hitch
14.7 gpm Total Hyd. Flow
M6040
6.1 gpm Power Steering
11.0 gpm Remotes / 3 Pt. Hitch
@ 2770 psi
17.1 gpm Total
L5740
4.9 gpm Power Steering
9.8 gpm Remote/3 Pt. Hitch
14.7 gpm Total Hyd. Flow
M6040
6.1 gpm Power Steering
11.0 gpm Remotes / 3 Pt. Hitch
@ 2770 psi
17.1 gpm Total
slowzuki
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Is he talking about the industrial backhoe model, I don't know the current number, its got a big pump.
I've got a L5030 as well, its loader is nice and fast. In an HST model the loader is usually quite fast as the engine (and pump) are turning at high rpm all the time.
A gear model, when say doing loader work is being driven using the pedal and returns to idle instinctively when the tractor isn't moving. This slows the pump and loader down.
You do learn to rev the engine when raising the bucket all the way but it takes a bit of practice, especially in a place where you need to keep the brakes on.
Woodsplitters, it depends on the size of the clyinder. I have a monster 6" bore one, you need to idle the tractor at about 2000 rpm to work at a good pace. A normal 4" cylinder works well at just a bit over idle (on a 10 gpm rated machine)
Hydraulic posthole diggers, if you have any rock, you won't be running it at anything but low speed, so it really isn't a problem. If you have hundreds of holes, and rock free soil, you might want to do it faster?
I've got a L5030 as well, its loader is nice and fast. In an HST model the loader is usually quite fast as the engine (and pump) are turning at high rpm all the time.
A gear model, when say doing loader work is being driven using the pedal and returns to idle instinctively when the tractor isn't moving. This slows the pump and loader down.
You do learn to rev the engine when raising the bucket all the way but it takes a bit of practice, especially in a place where you need to keep the brakes on.
Woodsplitters, it depends on the size of the clyinder. I have a monster 6" bore one, you need to idle the tractor at about 2000 rpm to work at a good pace. A normal 4" cylinder works well at just a bit over idle (on a 10 gpm rated machine)
Hydraulic posthole diggers, if you have any rock, you won't be running it at anything but low speed, so it really isn't a problem. If you have hundreds of holes, and rock free soil, you might want to do it faster?
