hydraulic hose assemblies

[unitedhose]

Hi

just wanted to introduce our company United Hose.

we specialize in hydraulic hose assemblies.

you can click on our banner at the top of the page or click directly on the link to go to our premade hydraulic hose section

 

[unitedhose]

Hi

just wanted to introduce our company United Hose.

we specialize in hydraulic hose assemblies.

you can click on our banner at the top of the page or click directly on the link to go to our pre made hydraulic hose section

link is:

Welcome to United Hose Ltd.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

Checked out your website. Just wondering when you're going to post the specifications of your hoses. Inner liner composition, outer covering composition, etc. Need to know to check fluid compatibility. Also would like to see the specifications of the 1 wire hose with 2 wire capabilities and the 2 wire hose with 4 wire capabilities.

 

[unitedhose]

Checked out your website. Just wondering when you're going to post the specifications of your hoses. Inner liner composition, outer covering composition, etc. Need to know to check fluid compatibility. Also would like to see the specifications of the 1 wire hose with 2 wire capabilities and the 2 wire hose with 4 wire capabilities.

The the hose we use for our hose assemblies to be used on farm equipment is SAE100r17 hydraulic hose rated 3000psi in all sizes 1/4 inch, 3/8 inch and 1/2 inch.

we do not sell bulk hose and fittings only assemblies

 

[Wayne County Hose]

The the hose we use for our hose assemblies to be used on farm equipment is SAE100r17 hydraulic hose rated 3000psi in all sizes 1/4 inch, 3/8 inch and 1/2 inch.

we do not sell bulk hose and fittings only assemblies

Okay, still need to know liner compositions to verify fluid compatibility.

And how about some info on the 1 wire hose with the performance of 2 wire?

United Hose Ltd. carries High Performance 1 wire hose with 2 wire working pressure. We also carry High Performance 2 wire hose with 4 wire working pressure. All our hose is manufactured to SAE 100R17 and SAE 100R16 specifications.

 

[unitedhose]

Okay, still need to know liner compositions to verify fluid compatibility.

And how about some info on the 1 wire hose with the performance of 2 wire?

"Okay, still need to know liner compositions to verify fluid compatibility"

regarding inner tube it is standard inner tube that is used for hydraulic hose same as all other manufactures inner tube.

"And how about some info on the 1 wire hose with the performance of 2 wire?"

i believe it means our sae100r17 has burst pressures divided by 4 to equal the working pressure of sae100rat hydraulic hose. for example of 1/4 inch sae100r17 hydraulic hose bursts at 16000psi which divided by 4 equals 4000psi, which is close to the pressure rating of 1/4 inch sae100r2at. 3/8 inch hose bursts at 14000psi which divided by 4 equals 3500psi which is close to the working pressure of 3/8 sae100r2at and our 1/2 hose bursts at 12000psi which divided by 4 equals 3000psi which again is close to the 1/2 sae100r2at pressure rating.

as far as two wire with 4 wire strength, i do not know why that is there as we have never sold two wire hose before. we have never had an agricultural equipment manufacturer use two wire hose just our sae100r17 hose

 

[Wayne County Hose]

Okay, still need to know liner compositions to verify fluid compatibility"

regarding inner tube it is standard inner tube that is used for hydraulic hose same as all other manufactures inner tube.

No, not all hoses have the same inner liner. Weatherhead, Parker, and many others use a pure nitrile inner liner in their 100R1, 100R2, 100R16 etc. hoses. Cheaper knockoffs use cheaper fillers, not pure nitrile which is an inferior product.

"And how about some info on the 1 wire hose with the performance of 2 wire?"

i believe it means our sae100r17 has burst pressures divided by 4 to equal the working pressure of sae100rat hydraulic hose. for example of 1/4 inch sae100r17 hydraulic hose bursts at 16000psi which divided by 4 equals 4000psi, which is close to the pressure rating of 1/4 inch sae100r2at. 3/8 inch hose bursts at 14000psi which divided by 4 equals 3500psi which is close to the working pressure of 3/8 sae100r2at and our 1/2 hose bursts at 12000psi which divided by 4 equals 3000psi which again is close to the 1/2 sae100r2at pressure rating.

The bold print above does not equal the specs for 100R2 or 100R16 hose. Your website says, "Equal To", not close to. Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and egg fights.

as far as two wire with 4 wire strength, i do not know why that is there as we have never sold two wire hose before. we have never had an agricultural equipment manufacturer use two wire hose just our sae100r17 hose

Your company is misrepresenting it's product. In a nutshell, false advertising. Why would you make that claim if you don't even offer the product?

 

[Spudland_Dave]

I'll stick to payin a little more for a hose that says "Weatherhead" or "Parker"

Cheap Hose: $5.99
Good Hose: $24.99
Destroying the hydraulic pump in your $30,000 tractor because of shoddy hoses: Priceless

 

[unitedhose]

Okay, still need to know liner compositions to verify fluid compatibility"



No, not all hoses have the same inner liner. Weatherhead, Parker, and many others use a pure nitrile inner liner in their 100R1, 100R2, 100R16 etc. hoses. Cheaper knockoffs use cheaper fillers, not pure nitrile which is an inferior product.

"And how about some info on the 1 wire hose with the performance of 2 wire?"



The bold print above does not equal the specs for 100R2 or 100R16 hose. Your website says, "Equal To", not close to. Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and egg fights.





Your company is misrepresenting it's product. In a nutshell, false advertising. Why would you make that claim if you don't even offer the product?

United Hose is first and foremost a hydraulic hose assembly factory for original equipment manufacturers, primarily in the agricultural field. We have made hoses for the following types of equipment manufacturers: front end loaders, backhoes, log splitters, rotary cutters, and assorted skid steer attachments manufacturers.

Our hoses has been proven in the field for years without any issues and we are constantly improving on product quality. We have used this hose for approximately 1/2 million oem hose assemblies and further we have supplied resellers to the big farm chain stores.

 

[unitedhose]

I'll stick to payin a little more for a hose that says "Weatherhead" or "Parker"

Cheap Hose: $5.99
Good Hose: $24.99
Destroying the hydraulic pump in your $30,000 tractor because of shoddy hoses: Priceless

Our hose is not cheap it is inexpensive because you are buying factory direct not through resellers or brokers.

As far as Weatherhead hoses we think our hose assemblies are superior to Weatherhead because we skive our hoses. Meaning we remove the cover of the hose and we crimp the fitting right on to the wire insuring strong coupling retention.

 

[greasemonkeyok]

Just an observation from a bystander with no dog in the fight. When one is asked a direct question, such as asking the composition of the liner, and no direct answer is given, I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling about the product.

 

[unitedhose]

Just an observation from a bystander with no dog in the fight. When one is asked a direct question, such as asking the composition of the liner, and no direct answer is given, I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling about the product.

I don't know what the exact composition of the rubber is?

I have never been asked that before. i will ask the manufacturer and post reply.

 

[brain55]

Our hose is not cheap it is inexpensive because you are buying factory direct not through resellers or brokers.

As far as Weatherhead hoses we think our hose assemblies are superior to Weatherhead because we skive our hoses. Meaning we remove the cover of the hose and we crimp the fitting right on to the wire insuring strong coupling retention.

That is a weak selling point at best. Having built and installed hundreds, maybe thousands of Weatherhead hoses over the years, the crimp is not what fails when a hose needs to be replaced, especially in 1/2" and smaller hoses. Hoses get replaced because they fail from abrasion or weathering. My opinion is that a 2-wire hose lasts longer than a 1-wire hose because of this. The only advantages a 1-wire hose may have, is a tighter bend radius and cheaper initial cost.

Brian

 

[RickB]

Our hose is not cheap it is inexpensive because you are buying factory direct not through resellers or brokers.

As far as Weatherhead hoses we think our hose assemblies are superior to Weatherhead because we skive our hoses. Meaning we remove the cover of the hose and we crimp the fitting right on to the wire insuring strong coupling retention.

I would be buying "factory direct" but you have to "check with the manufacturer" as to the composition of the hose inner liner? What a load of hooey.

Skieved hoses? Speaking strictly from practical experience and not from formal education on the subject, I would not knowlingly buy skived hose assemblies. Compromising the outer layer by skiving will do nothing but shorten hose life by allowing water and other contaminants to degrade the wire compopnent of the assembly as the outer hose layer does not extend to the butt of the crimp.

 

[Scotty370]

This looks like a case of "Bringing a "Knife to a Gunfight"!! I'm not 'dissin' unitedhose, and welcome by the way! Just thought you should know that Wayne is a trusted member in the TBN forum and you will be 'tested'!!!:laughing: ~Scotty

 

[unitedhose]

I would be buying "factory direct" but you have to "check with the manufacturer" as to the composition of the hose inner liner? What a load of hooey.

Skieved hoses? Speaking strictly from practical experience and not from formal education on the subject, I would not knowlingly buy skived hose assemblies. Compromising the outer layer by skiving will do nothing but shorten hose life by allowing water and other contaminants to degrade the wire compopnent of the assembly as the outer hose layer does not extend to the butt of the crimp.

we only skive the part where the fitting crimps onto the hose. the end of the ferrule goes over rubber insuring no water gets into the wire section. nothing can touch the wire the ferrule closes down on the rubber cover

 

[unitedhose]

This looks like a case of "Bringing a "Knife to a Gunfight"!! I'm not 'dissin' unitedhose, and welcome by the way! Just thought you should know that Wayne is a trusted member in the TBN forum and you will be 'tested'!!!:laughing: ~Scotty

no fear, bring it on.

We know we make great hose assemblies. Skepticism is a perfectly normal healthy and natural reaction to something new, especially when it seem to be to good to be true

 

[MtnViewRanch]

For those people who may be interested in ordering from you, what is your normal turn around time for your std hoses and for custom hoses?

 

[unitedhose]

For those people who may be interested in ordering from you, what is your normal turn around time for your std hoses and for custom hoses?

we can usually ship your order in a couple of days after you place order

 

[unitedhose]

I would be buying "factory direct" but you have to "check with the manufacturer" as to the composition of the hose inner liner? What a load of hooey.

Skieved hoses? Speaking strictly from practical experience and not from formal education on the subject, I would not knowlingly buy skived hose assemblies. Compromising the outer layer by skiving will do nothing but shorten hose life by allowing water and other contaminants to degrade the wire compopnent of the assembly as the outer hose layer does not extend to the butt of the crimp.

the hose assemblies you are buying direct, we don't manufacture hydraulic hose or hydraulic fittings however we buy hydraulic hose direct and our hose fittings from a fittings manufacturer and assemble the hoses in our shop and ship direct to the customer.

here is reply from manufacturer

Hello, steve:

Your order is under production now.

We use the NBR rubber for the inner tube

like i said it is normal buna nitrile, the inner tube is such a tiny percentage of the overall cost of a hose it would not make sense to use improper materials.
think of all the costs that go into making a hose:

inner tube, wire, outer cover, labour to make the hose, steel for fitting, machine rate to make the fitting, labour then to make the hose and all the assorted overheads involved.