hydraulic oil

   / hydraulic oil #11  
3RRL said:
Dave, I was going to say the same, Unless it lists that spec on the label, I would not put another brand of oil in my tractor. Fortunately, Wally World near me carrys a "Universal Tractor Oil" , which claims to meet that spec, at a very reasonable price.
I believe it lists some tractors as using it like JD? or CAT or something like that....don't remember exactly. IMO, if it meets the specs, I don't see why you couldn't use it. I understand that the Universal Tractor oil has more lubricity than straight AW32 hydraulic fluid, but it is slightly thicker then AW32. You can use it in a hydraulic system too, but straight hydraulic fluid can't (shouldn't) be used in a tractor that has the trans and hydraulics shared together.

Yep... I got walmart UTF fluid in my ford 5000 and Nh 7610s. Had it in there since I had them. When i had my NH 1920.. it used tractor supply UTF. Never had a hyd oil related faileure.

I agree with the others.. get an oil that meets the specs of your oem's oil.

Soundguy
 
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#12  
I found some tranny/hydraulic/gear oil at our equivalent to Harbor Freight (Princess Auto). It's kind of expensive; about $50 US/ 5 gallons. I'll check next time I'm in Washington, for a better price/place.

How do I find out what JDs "equivalent"; is? The big buckets usually just say something like, " Meets most major tractor mfr specifications".... but it doesn't specify " JD-220c". And JD doesn't specify their JD-220c spec.
 
   / hydraulic oil #13  
CurlyDave said:
My JD manual says to use JD oil and then gives the spec, JDM J20C.

I have always understood this to mean that any oil which meets the JDM J20C spec will be OK.

Unless it lists that spec on the label, I would not put another brand of oil in my tractor. Fortunately, Wally World near me carrys a "Universal Tractor Oil" , which claims to meet that spec, at a very reasonable price.

Now a lot of people think that only super-premium oil is good enough for their tractors, and more power to them. I would rather change mine at about half the recommended intervals and use an oil I don't have to drive 60 miles round trip to get.


Curly,

I too use Wally fluids as well as the ones from Farm&Fleet. BUT and it's a surprising BUT, when you read the back of the bucket where the specs are, with your lawyer glasses on, you will find they say it is recommended for tractors calling for the following specs. It does NOT state that it meets those specs. At least the one I was looking at. For a straight gear tractor, I just dump it in. For hydraulic systems, it's ok too. A power shift or HST it gets a bit iffy. I use SUDT or Amsoil in the HST.
 
   / hydraulic oil #14  
john_bud said:
I too use Wally fluids as well as the ones from Farm&Fleet. BUT and it's a surprising BUT, when you read the back of the bucket where the specs are, with your lawyer glasses on, you will find they say it is recommended for tractors calling for the following specs. It does NOT state that it meets those specs.... A power shift or HST it gets a bit iffy. I use SUDT or Amsoil in the HST.

That is an interesting bit of writing. There are two possibilities I can think of, one is the interpretation you put forward -- they are trying to be clever. The other is that the guy who wrote it was trying to say it did meet those specs and he was such a doofus he couldn't say it right.

Anyway, I don't have enough hours on my tractor to need a complete fluid change yet, but every time I put a new implement on I have to fill the implement. So far I have added about 2 gallons of the Wally World fluid to the sump and there are no problems.
 
   / hydraulic oil #15  
CurlyDave said:
That is an interesting bit of writing. There are two possibilities I can think of, one is the interpretation you put forward -- they are trying to be clever. The other is that the guy who wrote it was trying to say it did meet those specs and he was such a doofus he couldn't say it right.

Anyway, I don't have enough hours on my tractor to need a complete fluid change yet, but every time I put a new implement on I have to fill the implement. So far I have added about 2 gallons of the Wally World fluid to the sump and there are no problems.

Close inspection of my latest wally world UTF fluid purchase shows that my can says it meets or exceeds* the specs of the OEM fluids.. later the * says that the viscosity may be slightly different.

Soundguy
 
   / hydraulic oil #16  
Soundguy said:
Close inspection of my latest wally world UTF fluid purchase shows that my can says it meets or exceeds* the specs of the OEM fluids.. later the * says that the viscosity may be slightly different.

Soundguy


Meets the spec, but is different.....riiiight...

On the bright side, the cheapest oil available today is probably head and sholders above the best oil available 15-20 years ago.

I'll have to look again at the jugs I have out in the shop and see what they say now....

jb
 
   / hydraulic oil #17  
john_bud said:
Meets the spec, but is different.....riiiight...

jb

Though they worded it ambigously.. i take it to mean that their oil meets the lubrication portion of the oem specs.. I.e. the most important part.. etc. ( though.. I guess viscosity could be an issue on an application that needed exact viscosity.. course most of those 'critical' oil applications are already using something other than plain UTF.. etc.. like super udt, HT ultra.. or synthetic UTF.. etc..

Soundguy
 

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