Hydraulic power being priority in a purchase.

[Deezl Smoke]

Hi there. I've done some searching and reading here and in general online regarding subcompact 25hp TLBs. But I seem to find some conflicting info, or no info about actual hydraulic flow to the scvs and/or even total hydraulic flow on many brands.

I'm still open to suggestions on brands and models as I will be doing the service myself other than maybe warranty work, so dealer proximity is not an issue. But initial countdown has brought me to the Massey gc 1720 and the Mahindra max 26.

As far as I can tell, the 1720 runs about 6.8gpm total and 4.8 of that to the scvs. Is this correct? I can not find info on the 2016 max 26, but a dealer was guessing (ya,...love that idea) at 6gpm total. do you know what it actually is, and how much goes to the scvs?

Any other brands/models with high hydraulic capacity in factory form? I know I can ad a pto pump and extra components if needed, but would rather just go bigger tractor if that were the case.

Thanks.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

just curious... why is that a spec your are focusing on? I can't think of many applications where flow to an SVC on a small tractor really matters.

 

[roadhunter]

I didn't' realize there were such a thing as sub compact TLB's.

 

[Deezl Smoke]

just curious... why is that a spec your are focusing on? I can't think of many applications where flow to an SVC on a small tractor really matters.

Speed. Though I'm no pro, I can operate a loader and hoe at a reasonable rate of efficiency. The speed at which so many of this size tractor operate is a bit on the slow side for my liking. But the physical size of the machine, is closer to what I want for hauling, storing, and tight working quarters.

 

[Deezl Smoke]

I didn't' realize there were such a thing as sub compact TLB's.

That's another topic. Some brands, or dealers, call them tlbs, others claim completely different classes for hp and weight etc.

 

[TSO]

There's a vid on YouTube (take the points with a grain of salt) that shows the Massey hydraulics operating more quickly than a comparable 'Bota BX, at lower RPM. https://youtu.be/CGyZGCftvOY

Most people will agree that, if cylinders are the same size, higher hydraulic GPM will offer more speed.

 

[oldnslo]

Like TSO states, there is more than one variable for speed. Flow plus cylinder size = velocity. I personally would look at the forces that each implement is rated for Vs oil flow rate. If I can raise out of the hole 1 second faster but lift 500 lbs less. Which would be more important?

 

[TSO]

Right... For example, my buddy used to have a Bota L3540, nice tractor. That loader was rated to lift around 1800lbs to full height. My Massey is rated for roughly 2500lbs. I have about 30% or more hydraulic GPM than he had on that tractor, but his loader lifted at about the same speed. The main reason was because my cylinders were much bigger (diameter) and thus took more fluid internally to generate force. His smaller cylinders filled up quicker, which made up for the lesser GPM.

Massey (modern) seems to be known for having the best hydraulics in the CUT machines. So, like the propaganda video above states... The Massey should operate the hydraulics with more speed, relative to the other factors.

 

[Deezl Smoke]

There's a vid on YouTube (take the points with a grain of salt) that shows the Massey hydraulics operating more quickly than a comparable 'Bota BX, at lower RPM. https://youtu.be/CGyZGCftvOY

Most people will agree that, if cylinders are the same size, higher hydraulic GPM will offer more speed.

Is the 2410 an actual class comparable machine to the bx25? I thought the 1720 was the equivalent?

 

[TSO]

24xx series was the previous model years, the 17xx are the new Tier 4 versions