Hydraulic pressure check

[Aquamoose]

A400 is still good! Glad it all worked out for you!

 

[DavesTractor]

Another point, adding to all the good advice already given, is that you typically do not need a real wide grapple. You aren't grading, you are picking up rocks, stumps, brush etc. If you are barely as wide as the tractor you are plenty wide. Wider grapples are heavier of course.

We sell the Terra Force line of compact tractor grapples and 4-n-1 buckets. They are a good mix of strength vs weight. If someone is looking for a good grapple and their dealer sells Terra Force, they are very much worth looking at.

 

[Reg]

The weight of the grapple is PART of the problem (I got the lightest brush grapple I could find).
The other part of the problem is the BL25R loader itself, e.g. my 2005 Humpolec loader on the 42 HP Kukje (Branson/Century) can EASILY lift and carry 2000 lbs PLUS the grapple.
I think it is branded as the Century C42 ?, or maybe that is the tractor itself.
Will check when it is daylight and not pouring rain.

 

[Jesser02Ex]

Reg, the BL25 came with the tractoe, Im not sure what I can do about pulling and replacing he FEL. I can text the new wicked 60 grapple as soon as I get a call to pick it up at the freight terminal. I’m hoping cutting the weight by 400 lbs will help my situation.

 

[Threepoint]

Reg, the BL25 came with the tractoe, Im not sure what I can do about pulling and replacing he FEL. I can text the new wicked 60 grapple as soon as I get a call to pick it up at the freight terminal. I’m hoping cutting the weight by 400 lbs will help my situation.

I think you'll be very pleased with the 60" Wicked Root Grapple on your tractor. I use mine on both of my Kiotis (a 45 hp NX and a 35 hp CK). 60" is plenty wide.

 

[ericm979]

I'm happy with my 60" Wicked dual lid grapple. It's a nice width for brush.

 

[blacklion66]

Sounds like your dealer got started selling lawnmowers

The advice to check the relief valve pressure release is spot on, if it's set to tight good chance you will blow the valve before a hose

 

[Reg]

Reg, the BL25 came with the tractoe, Im not sure what I can do about pulling and replacing he FEL. I can text the new wicked 60 grapple as soon as I get a call to pick it up at the freight terminal. I知 hoping cutting the weight by 400 lbs will help my situation.

Agreed, you have what you have and to replace it with a different loader would be cost prohibitive.
I was WRONG about my loader number, it is in fact C50HL spec'd lift capacity to full height 2540 lbs (at pivot).
The slightly lower capacity one offered at the time on Bransons was the C50 spec'd to 2100 lbs
As I recall that was one of the primary reasons I picked the Century over the Branson, plus I think the front tires were a little heftier to accommodate the greater lift capacity.

I'll try to dig out my grapple specs, it has been a while, it might be quicker/easier for me to search this forum for details of what I have (-:
It is one that wasn't well publicized on whoever's web site, somewhat narrower than their standard and several of us here got them - NOT super heavy duty, i.e. plain pivots, no pivot "bearings" per se.

EDIT:

OK, found it.
Wildkat 48 inch, slightly over $700 with shipping nearly 7 years ago.

 

[Texasmark]

Keep in mind the arm, or distance from the pins, the farther away the more "weight" there is.

I don't want to do the math in my head but for example 10lb at the pivot point is 10lb but for each foot you go forward the apparent weight increases a certain amount (1lb?). So 575lb about 2 feet in front of the pins would be the same as 700lb. There is an actual formula to calculate it, I just used imaginary numbers...but the principle is the same.

It's foot-lbs aka feet x lbs.....a product; multiplication. Either can change for calculating the same product.

Real quick look-see on that is a 3 pt gin pole. Put 500 lbs on your lift arms at the pins. See how easily it ruins up and down, no stress on the tractor.

Remove the load, install a gin pole and connect the 500 lbs to it....8-10' pole. Either the front end of your tractor will come off the ground or your hydraulics will grunt and go into bypass.

Other thing is the angle of the lift on 3 pts. Most/some mfgrs list FEL ratings at max height meaning max angle besides location on the arms of the rated load...at the lift pins or some specified distance.

 

[Jesser02Ex]

I wanted to provide an update on my FEL lift issue. Simply, the grapple sold by my dealer was to heavy. My new EA wicked root grapple arrived and I quickly found the tree that I was unable to pick up with my tractor.

Well the new combination works perfect! I am pleased with my new toy (tool).