Hydraulic skiddng winch

[Sawyer Rob]

Much of what you write here comes off as "I do it better than you can." Whether that's your intention or not, I don't know. You've always been very helpful in the sawing forum on the other site, but your vibe is different on TBN.

I think that's how you took it, not how I said it. Keep in mind, the title of this thread is "Hydraulic skidding winch", and so that's what I assumed your primary use for it would be.

All I've done here is try to bring up a few points I've learned along the way, and MAYBE save you some aggravation and money, learning from MY mistakes...

One thing I'm learning from this site is, there's a few people here who think, what ever "they" think up can't be improved on and they don't like to be questioned on it at all......even though in some cases, they ask for others thoughts! lol

Here's the first post I made on this thread,

It's going to be a really slooooow skidding winch....if that is important to you...

Why you would think that would be confrontational is beyond me? No matter, I won't bother you on this thread again...

SR

 

[Jim Timber]

I'm not the only one who's catching it, as I'm sure you've noticed other people's abrasion to some of your comments. I get mistaken all the time too for how I write. You're not alone. Then again, saying buy a different tractor doesn't really help people and they get uppity about it.

50fpm is the best unladen line speed Ramsey has on their electric recovery winches using a 3 stage planetary to reel it in quickly only to drop down to inches per minute under rated load. 50 feet per minute is nearly a foot a second, so if I have 150' of cable, I'm looking at 3 minutes to haul it in if it's maxing my winch (I don't have that many 24" DBH trees). Optimum production rate? Probably not ideal. Slow? Compared to what? Pulling it with my atv? No, it's not all that slow.

Now if I made it 150FPM, and shaved 2 minutes off that turn time - then drove at 6 mph across 1/2 mile of land to the landing. How many more turns per day would I get from that increase in winching speed? One, two maybe? I do production optimization on my own products and have found that slowing down a little in machining rate increases quality that would otherwise be insurmountably expensive to achieve at a higher volume. Time is money, but you're not dealing with a linear expense/output curve, it's exponential. In this case, assuming I can achieve 50fpm under load, to get to 5x faster line speed costs 5x more money up front, but only results in 5% more wood hauled at the end of the day. How is spending more in this case an improvement? How long would it take to get a ROI on that expense?