Hydroponics - My new addiction...

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DrDan

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Last June we finished up our 30 X 50' Conley greenhouse. Why so big? Well the kit was only $6200 and a 12 X 18 hobby type greenhouse was almost $12,000 in kit form. So anyhow I more or less built the greenhouse for my girlfriend who suffers from the winter blahs! Thought it might be a good place to hang out in winter and get a little sun and humidity while growing some plants.

Well in the earlier winter months, we tried to keep the temperature at 55 F just to save heating costs. Nothing really was growing much - just kind of static and it was't a really comfortable place to hang out. Looked at the whole picture and decided that heck - we weren't enjoying the greenhouse for what we wanted it for. Soooo Up went the thermostat!

We now keep the thermostat at 68F and with the sun's help it is always 72 to 85F during the daytime. Anyhow the plants perked up and we have all kinds of things blooming and enjoying... So as one thing lead to another I got hooked on hydroponics!

I bought a drip type grower on eBay for $30 and that was the start of it all. Right now I have 4 tomato plants in this unit that were started 12/30/02. This plants are now about 5/8" diameter at the base and about 3' high and loaded with blooms. Along with this initial expenditure - I found a used 400W HID (Hi Intensity Discharge) - Metal Halide grow light on good old eBay and we were off and running.

Next I added a 4 tray aeroponics unit that holds 24 lettuce plants. In less than a month the lettuce is in the salad bowl. Aeroponic units have little sprayers that spray the nutrient on the roots of the plants give a very high level of oxygen on the roots and extreme fast growth. The dang lettuce looked soooo good I added an 8 tray unit with another 48 places for plants. Originally we had 32 lettuce plants in it and 12 basil plants. Hah here is how an addiction goes: By mistake the aeroponics unit came in three boxes and one box was the wrong one. It was a smaller ebb and flow unit. I called the dealer and he agreed to pay the shipping cost back to him and send out the correct box with the rest of the parts for the aero unit. Well... I looked at that box for about 10 days and finally decided to put the dang thing together.

We put pole green beans in it and in 5 weeks the darn beans have climbed to the overhead supports in the greenhouse at the 10' height and are just loaded with baby beans and more blooms. It looks like 6 plants will fill the freezer! The growth is just incredible! Never a week passes that we don't have to help with the training of the vines. In addition, we put 4 French Melon plants in this unit and they are blooming and half way to the overhead supports now.

Anyhow I was running out of room again! Ended up buying a second Ebb & Flow unit and now have that filled with 18" high basil. My gosh it is good in salads!

You might wonder what I'm going to do with all that lettuce and basil... Well, I wondered the same until I saw the plants! They are so beautiful that they are irresistable! We took the first crop of lettuce (that which we didn't eat) and put the heads in nice little crispers and just went down our street and gave everyone a sample. Well, now we have to ad more units and soon another greenhouse!

Attended commercial growers training at CropKing that makes commercial greenhouses and hydroponics units and we are now considering putting up a 1/4 acre 4 bay unit that will crank out about 6000 heads of lettuce a month. Gheesh so that's what I did with my summer vacation and haven't been around here lately.

It is wonderful fun and I love seeing things grow so well. It seems that one taste is all it takes and people love it! I used to be a dairy farmer in Iowa and I guess farming stays in the blood. Mkes one feel really good offering a product to people and hearing comments like, "It is too pretty to eat"! In fact with the Bibb Lettuce and Basil combo with some green pepper, cucumber and tomato cut in I have reduced the amount of salad dressing I use. Don't want to mask any of these good flavors.

If you all want to have some fun and try growing some nutritious clean food - try hydroponics - you'll be amazed and probably hopelessly addicted!

Oh yes we use no pesticides - we use beneficial insects to destroy the bad bugs. A week ago we released 2000 LadyBugs. Boy did they have fun eating aphids!

More later...

DrDan /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

One of our "Green Kids" - Bibb Lettuce

Lettuce.JPG
 
   / Hydroponics - My new addiction... #2  
Dan, that sounds great. I know a little about what it feels like to watch stuff grow; never got too interested in my wife's flowers, but sure do like growing stuff I can eat. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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LOL Glad to hear from ya Bird... Yes, we call them our "green kids" and I guess we can't help but offer a convincing sales pitch - it's like handing over something ya love and people feel it. Alot better than buying that crap in the store that has been grown south of the border in human excrement. That's not to appetising to me! Bird you should buy or build a little dripper unit and play with it. You'd love it!

DrDan
 
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Dan those are sure some pretty plants in your photo! If you don't mind me asking, about how much do those aeroponic units run? Do you know of any web sites that offer that type of growing equipment? It would seem to me that if you can do that during the winter in Ohio, for us down south it could be done with much less heating expense involved.

Looks like a great new addiction. Now if you can figure a way to use the tractor in the greenhouse it will be perfect.

MarkV
 
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Dan, care to share anymore details about your setup?

Love to see some pictures of the whole setup, inside and out.

Also very curiuous about the total costs so far, i.e. besides tbuying the kit, how much would you estimate you have spent getting things setup (i.e. plumbing, electrical, hydroponic equipment etc.) Which vendor/website did you order the greenhouse from?

Also, very interested to know how much it costs to heat the place and what kind of fuel you use to heat with.

I really want a greenhouse too, the bigger the better, but have always worried about the cost of keeping warm enough during these long, cold new england winters. Also, would love to heat it with wood, since I have a free life-time supply right on my property.

Thanks! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

H
 
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Which series/model of Conley Greenhouse did you get?

I remember you putting in radiant heat for your shop - did you use radiant heat for the greenhouse? How about some pictures of the greenhouse exterior and interior?
 
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DocHeb

Here's a link to the exact model I bought except I got the 30# snow load model which is much better for the minor additional cost...

Ranger 200 Greenhouse Kit
 
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Mark

Have to run to work my other job now (vet) but will answer you later tonight.

DrDan
 
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DrDan,

Oh you must tell us more! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif This is one of the things we
want to do on the property we have. We thought about
adding an extension to the house design for a solar space that
we could use to grow some veggies during the winter but we
axed that due to cost.

But we still want a greenhouse. I had in mind building a
masonary greenhouse with lots of insulation on the north side
and lots of south facing windows. Maybe throw in a wood
burning stove and off we go. Course we started thinking
about growing the veggies and selling at the farmers market
especially in the winter when we could get higher prices.
Assuming we could actually grow anything. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I bought some expenisve books on Hydroponics years ago but
never did much with the ideas...

More info please! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thanks,
Dan
 
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I'm pleased to see this topic come up here. I too find it very intriuging.

A few years ago I built a 6 x 12 leanto growroom out of some sliding glass insulated panels and cedar and ended up wading chest deep into hydroponics...built a 200 plant unit using 4" PVC and hooking up black plasic tubing, jets and drainage. Got a bunch of net pots, some German grow rocks, a couple of rubbermaid tanks and a sump pump and started growing vegies and orchids. Soon came the reality check. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Coastal SC is WAY too hot for greenhouse growing unless you pay up for cooling. What was I thinking? After two summers of messing with it, I decided to take the gear to the mountains to use it for propagating wasabi, but haven't set it up there yet.

Anyway, in hindsight I might have been better off getting an off the shelf unit like you did, but I had fun figuring it all out and building it.....it can definately be done economically, and it is absolutely both fascinating and fun. Great looking bibb you have there /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Now I use the growroom for slowly learning how not to kill orchids and have one side set up with shelves and florescent lights to germinate seeds....flowers, vegies, perennials and ginseng plants.

<font color="blue"> Oh yes we use no pesticides - we use beneficial insects to destroy the bad bugs. A week ago we released 2000 LadyBugs. Boy did they have fun eating aphids!</font> I pay the kids a dime each for every cameleon or tree frog they bring to ther greenhouse...very few bugs!
 

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