hydrostat vs. gears??

[yellowsocks93]

If your on a tight schedule for moving dirt you could do it faster with an HST. A power reverser would be fast but you would still have to shift. For me I go slow so all I need are non syncro gears. Try them both!!

 

[ns_in_tex]

What I like about the HST is you can hold just under wheel spinning pressure against the bucket while moving the bucket till it finds the spot it will continue forward.

Another example, I was pulling small trees this morning with my treegetter on fel. Had a bush hog 286 mower on back for counterbalance. When I hooked onto a tree with a little more roots than the loader lift capacity, I can get to the point I have a rear wheel lifted off the ground, then move fore & aft (maybe 2') till the rear gets uncomfortably high, then change directions. After a few fore & afts, the tree finally decides to give up.

 

[Henro]

All tractors are good...all transmissions are good...

The HST vs GEAR wars are now over, but have been heated at times. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

For me, the HST adds a safety factor. I don't need to clutch to change speeds, and I can creep slower than a turtle if I want to, when I am on a slope, at an angle I am not comfortable with.

I love that ability to change direction without clutching sometimes. Other times it would make no difference at all.

I don't plow so the advantage of a gear machine in that application does not apply to me.

Also like the ability to creep up to implements for 3PH hookup, without needed any skill whatsoever to do that.

So for me the real advantage of the HST seems to be safety related. Lift you foot off the directional pedal and the tractor stops on its own. On a hill, you always have a wheel-to-engine connection, at any speed.

Like everything else in live, mileage may vary for each of us! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Rimmer]

The hydro is teriffic for FEL work. Just this morning I was moving a pile of wet dirt around with my BX23. My technique for getting a good, full bucket was to shove the bucket deep into the base of the pile, so far that the hydraulics couldn't budge it. Just a little heel pressure on the hydro pedal to move me back an inch or so would break the load free so that I could start to curl the bucket, then a bit of toe pressure would move me forward as I made the lift, then back again slowly, lower the bucket to save travel height, forward, swing away from the pile, and on my way. No clutch, no shifting, almost effortless.

Should be even easier with the power of the 7800.

 

[JerryG]

<font color="blue"> The 7800 only comes one way and that is the hydro! </font>
Art should know he sells them.

<font color="blue"> I love that ability to change direction without clutching sometimes. Other times it would make no difference at all. </font>
You can also do that with a power shuttle. I do it all the time with mine.

<font color="blue">Do a search on hydrostat vs. gears. This has been debated to death in the past. You will get all the information on both sides that you do and don't want.

The HST vs GEAR wars are now over, but have been heated at times </font>
There has been to much said at times. It can get very heated.
<font color="red"> THE END </font>

 

[RobertN]

What else will you be doing? If you are doing lots of loading and moving dirt, I would look at a track-loader like the ASV-RC30 or Cat-247 first. They can move a lot of dirt really fast. The RC30 would probably be more in your range, at 31.5hp. The Cat-247 is 50 hp and lots more expensive...

Explore all your options. Try renting a few machines before laying out the big $$$.

 

[MossRoad]

Do a search on hydrostat vs. gears. This has been debated to death in the past. You will get all the information on both sides that you do and don't want.

Oh, wait, that's already been said. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I like my hydro, others like their gears, we all like our tractors.

Best advice I can give is test drive both and see which one fits you best. What are you going to use the tractor for? Try to test them both doing real world chores that you will be doing to have a fair comparison. Don't buy one that you haven't tested doing what you are going to use it for most. One might be great for mowing but not as good for loader work, etc... Good luck in your decision process. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Soundguy]

As others have mentioned.. this is probably one of the most hotly debated points in history.

Here's my .02

A HST tranny steals a small amount of power from the system, however, I hear they ( or a shuttle / reverser ) is the absolute cat's meow for loader work.

A gear tractor may be more suited to a task such as continual heavy ground engagement ( tillage, discing ). Perhaps even on tasks such as open field mowing, due to the slight power efficiency bonus ont he gear tranny.

I hear that tillers are fairly decent on an HST as you can keep power up, but vary ground speed.

We are still waiting to see how long term use of HST will hold up to gear tractors. For instance.. lots of gear trannies from the 30's are still going with no rebuilds ( and lots HAVE been rebuilt ). I personally wonder how long a well maintained HST will last without needing a replacement part.

(My personal preference is gear)..

Soundguy

 

[Hambone]

<font color="red">The HST vs GEAR wars are now over, but have been heated at times.
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What about 2WD vs 4WD???? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[fishman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The HST vs GEAR wars are now over )</font>

Uh, who won? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

On second thought, don't answer that. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif