I can only buy one: B7800, TC30, JD790, or CK30
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"Kubota L2800 versus John Deere 3120"
I'd try and beat the JD dealer up a bit and see if you can't lower their price.
I think the JD is a nicer tractor. I've driven both and would say that the JD is a more "modern" machine. I think the L2800 series is nice but more of an older style machine.
Just my opinion. I don't own any of the models you are looking at but if I had the choice and money I would probably seriously consider a JD 3000 series.
I'd try and beat the JD dealer up a bit and see if you can't lower their price.
I think the JD is a nicer tractor. I've driven both and would say that the JD is a more "modern" machine. I think the L2800 series is nice but more of an older style machine.
Just my opinion. I don't own any of the models you are looking at but if I had the choice and money I would probably seriously consider a JD 3000 series.
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Ha! I have to laugh a bit. I was exactly the same way as you are. I honestly liked the JD better. However, on my last two tractors, my JD dealer that I've bought several new tractors from was just too much more for me. It sounds to me like you just need to decide how much more the JD is worth to you and see how the prices end up. I would have paid more for the JD, but not a few thousand more. Good luck! Either ought to serve you quite well.
P.S. When the new JD 4720 with a cab comes out, I'll get to play the price game yet again. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
P.S. When the new JD 4720 with a cab comes out, I'll get to play the price game yet again. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Hey RedRocker I like the ASV comment you posted! My only complaint is their prices are out of hand in New England. Crimbo go with your gut just like Dargo said. I have owned a few machines over the years also and agree you will not be sorry about the L2800.
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Of the choices listed, I'd go with the TC30 in Hydro with FEL and MMM as the best of the bunch all round tractor for what you want to do. If you could step up a bit, my choices would be a TC33DA....or....JD3520 both with R4 tires. I have turf tires now and the only thing I dislike about them it that they load up heavily. For this reason I'd buy R4 next time around. One sizable JD dealer told me that over 90% of the tractors sold are Hydro now.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue">( I've narrowed it down to these two. . .
Tractor, R4 tires, FEL, 72" rear mower, 72" rear blade.
Kubota L2800; HST, 22.5 PTO HP, folding ROPS; $17,320
J. Deere 790; Gear, 24 PTO HP, detachable bucket; $16,350)
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Both are proven tractors, both have well proven engines and nobody can take anything away from either machine in terms of reliablity. Both are part of each brand's value line up and I've never heard of anyone complain that either was under powered for its size/weight. The L2800, while it has less PTO HP by 1.5 would be my personal choice between these two tractors for one simple reason. I strongly favor the HST transmission for mowing chores. I am a major critic of the GEAR version of the L2800 and if you were comparing the gear version then I would opt for the JD790. But in my mind the HST transmission on the L2800 makes the choice very easy. I buy a tractor to save time and to save labor. It seems like mowing and FEL work are going to be your primary tasks, both of those are more quickly and efficiently accomplished with a tractor that has an HST transmission. Both can be accomplished with gear tractors, but an overwhelming majority of users will save time on these types of tasks with a HST so that is why I would recommend it.
<font color="red"> I believe both are considered a bit underpowered for their size. Why not the Kubota 7800 or JD 4000 series or Kioti CK30. </font>
Interesting thought, so I looked up the specs on the tractors.
Kubota B7800 = 1741# which gives it an amazing 58# for each 1 HP
JD 790 = 2150# which gives it 79# of weight for each 1 HP
Kubota L2800 = 2600# which gives it 89# of weight for each 1 HP
CK 30 = 3042# which gives it 101# of weight for each 1 HP
All the weights are from the internet, none include FELs, which typically add another 850 to 1000# of weight. Obviously the less weight per horsepower a tractor has the more powerful it would feel. )</font>
Bob, i'm really nobody to disagree with someone like you, but at speeds of less than 10 miles per hour, i think you have it backwards - the heaver machine will feel more powerful simply becaus eit gets more traction. now i probably misread something.
Tractor, R4 tires, FEL, 72" rear mower, 72" rear blade.
Kubota L2800; HST, 22.5 PTO HP, folding ROPS; $17,320
J. Deere 790; Gear, 24 PTO HP, detachable bucket; $16,350)
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Both are proven tractors, both have well proven engines and nobody can take anything away from either machine in terms of reliablity. Both are part of each brand's value line up and I've never heard of anyone complain that either was under powered for its size/weight. The L2800, while it has less PTO HP by 1.5 would be my personal choice between these two tractors for one simple reason. I strongly favor the HST transmission for mowing chores. I am a major critic of the GEAR version of the L2800 and if you were comparing the gear version then I would opt for the JD790. But in my mind the HST transmission on the L2800 makes the choice very easy. I buy a tractor to save time and to save labor. It seems like mowing and FEL work are going to be your primary tasks, both of those are more quickly and efficiently accomplished with a tractor that has an HST transmission. Both can be accomplished with gear tractors, but an overwhelming majority of users will save time on these types of tasks with a HST so that is why I would recommend it.
<font color="red"> I believe both are considered a bit underpowered for their size. Why not the Kubota 7800 or JD 4000 series or Kioti CK30. </font>
Interesting thought, so I looked up the specs on the tractors.
Kubota B7800 = 1741# which gives it an amazing 58# for each 1 HP
JD 790 = 2150# which gives it 79# of weight for each 1 HP
Kubota L2800 = 2600# which gives it 89# of weight for each 1 HP
CK 30 = 3042# which gives it 101# of weight for each 1 HP
All the weights are from the internet, none include FELs, which typically add another 850 to 1000# of weight. Obviously the less weight per horsepower a tractor has the more powerful it would feel. )</font>
Bob, i'm really nobody to disagree with someone like you, but at speeds of less than 10 miles per hour, i think you have it backwards - the heaver machine will feel more powerful simply becaus eit gets more traction. now i probably misread something.
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The tractor still has to have the hp and torque to push its weight and the implements it is pulling, So while more weight might push the tires into the ground a little harder you still have to have the power to push the weight and run the pto....