I give up Jinma, am I right?

[Robert Blows]

Yeah, but it's twaddle from over 9 years ago!

Thanks... I think I just got up too early this morning. ... maybe a coffee is required, to get me back on my desired mellow path.

 

[Heywood Jannockitov]

Oh, and welcome to the forum!

 

[Localmotion]

In my experience most of the design features on all the Chinese brands are very similar - they may be evolutionary, but so are John Deere, Case etc...

Here and now it is true that Chinese tractors lack some of the refinement and quality control of those produced in many other countries... but they are catching up quickly and the Yancheng factory which makes Jinma are (I would argue) leading the way, mainly due the large amount of feedback they get from their worldwide customer base.

We sell the Siromer range of tractors in Spain. They are Jinma tractors, but Yancheng have made some slight modifications and refinements at the request of Siromer to meet the demands of the UK and European markets. Interestingly these refinements have not made the tractors any more expensive, and we are now seeing some of them as standard on the Jinmas being sold here.

My advice would always be to go and have a test drive, and make you own decision - don't believe all the negative press that Chinese tractors get, and definately don't simply agree with what a dealer says about a rival brand without seeing it yourself.

Welcome to TBN! :thumbsup: Whatever brand of tractor you choose, I hope you enjoy it and please share your experiences with us... :thumbsup:

 

[attaboy]

In my experience most of the design features on all the Chinese brands are very similar - they may be evolutionary, but so are John Deere, Case etc...

Here and now it is true that Chinese tractors lack some of the refinement and quality control of those produced in many other countries... but they are catching up quickly and the Yancheng factory which makes Jinma are (I would argue) leading the way, mainly due the large amount of feedback they get from their worldwide customer base.

We sell the Siromer range of tractors in Spain. They are Jinma tractors, but Yancheng have made some slight modifications and refinements at the request of Siromer to meet the demands of the UK and European markets. Interestingly these refinements have not made the tractors any more expensive, and we are now seeing some of them as standard on the Jinmas being sold here.

My advice would always be to go and have a test drive, and make you own decision - don't believe all the negative press that Chinese tractors get, and definately don't simply agree with what a dealer says about a rival brand without seeing it yourself.

Welcome to TBN! :thumbsup: Whatever brand of tractor you choose, I hope you enjoy it and please share your experiences with us... :thumbsup:

New Life for an Old Thread. I have an '07 Jinma 354, and it's built like a brick s***-house. Pulls a 6' box blade uphill all day .. awesome power. I needed a 4wd horse .. have a Kubota L285 and '52 8N, and they have their place. A lot more current info on ctoa dot net for Jinma, but I just wanted to put my two cents worth in here. Only real surprises .. were the Two fuel strainer screens .. one in the tank, and the other actually inside the shut-off valve at the visual fuel bowell ... me duhhhh

Anyway ... I have three Komatsu's with Yanmar engines ... can I stay

 

[SPYDERLK]

New Life for an Old Thread. I have an '07 Jinma 354, and it's built like a brick s***-house. Pulls a 6' box blade uphill all day .. awesome power.

... good brakes & lights?

 

[Smalljobs]

I think we're beating an old horse. These tractors provide outstanding service, great power, simple repairs, outstanding support from this forum and especially parts supplier firms such as Ronald and Tommy. Yes, the fiberglass is not like green or orange and the casting surface finish and trim is not the same, and yes the electronics are not great.

Mine is a reliable workhorse and provides outstanding value.

 

[Localmotion]

Yeah, but it's twaddle from over 9 years ago!

****... read your post, but still didn't twing that THIS thread was 9 years old!!!! Guess I also need an extra cup of coffee before signing into TBN :laughing:

 

[Smalljobs]

I visited the factory a few years ago. Take a look.

 

[bluechip]

This just goes to show that the written word has a life of its own! I suspect I khow who the OP was on this thread, at that time, DF tractors had only one sales outlet in the US and this sounds like something that the salesman for that outfit would have written. I have been to Foton's new plant (well new 5 years ago), Changfa, DF and Shandong Tracotr works. I unfortuantely did not get to Jinma's plant. One thing that really sets DF apart, one of the main reasons I chose them to import, was that they have their own manufacturing capability (not just assembly). The quality of their "chip making" machine tools parrallels many US plants (lots of Japanese and even a couple of US made HAAS machines). In fact my only complaints have been with the outsourced fiberglass parts do to some fading issues. Foton did not have any parts manufacturing and I suspect this has a lot to do with some of the parts availability issues we have seen in the US. They seem to order parts for their assembly line, and to fill orders, but seem to be using the "Just in time" scheduling. The Shandong factory that made our KAMA tractors was quite a dissapointment, fortunately the product line has been sold and current TS tractors are made in a new, hopefully more modern location. The purchased parts by Foton seemed to be how Changfa was able to come to market with a very similar tractor, they have been redesigning their own product line since my visit. It looked like they were isntalling some machine tools in their huge new plant (5 years ago) at that time they were mostly for thier power equipment and engine lines and not tractor parts which I believe they also were outsourcing.
To date I have seen only 2 chinese manufacturers offer a sycnronized shuttle shift transmission, Jaingling/Mahindra was first, and then DF. The company that I suspect the OP worked for distributed Jaingling under the Lenar name and they introduced the first, then soon after Mahindra put an end to that relationship, DF came out with a synchro shuttle, with a fully synchronized transmission. It works very well. My personal opinion is the DF tractors are as good as any other tractor coming out of china and better than most.

Availability of Chinese tractors in the future are very questionable now as Tier IV Epa requirement go into effect. DF has advised that they will only have under 25HP tractors available next year... Of course this will affect all brands, mostly with big price increases.

 

[TruChaos]

I visited the factory a few years ago. Take a look.

I'm glad to see they upgraded from not too long ago when they made tractors in a factory with oil soaked dirt floors.