Gotta have respect for the buddy that gets stuck trying to help ya out!!! QUOTE]Yeah, I had a buddy once that was out in the middle of a quagmire with his truck on a high spot (we were on a jobsite in Venezuela). He was waving for me to come over. There was deep water and muddy ruts from large equipment everywhere but I had mud grip tires on my truck and I knew he just had street tires on his, so I back up and get a 40 MPH running start at the mud and got about half way and sunk to the axles. I slogged thru mud about knee deep to get to him and asked him what he wanted. HE SAID, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU COULD MAKE IT THRU THE MUD!!! I asked him how he got where he was without getting stuck and he said "Heck I am stuck" What are buddies for if they cant pull one over on you now and then. We both had to get a dozer to pull our trucks back across the mud to high ground. It took me about an hour to hose all the red mud off the outside of the truck, from under it and inside it.