I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts.

   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #161  
My adventure with Lug nuts:

This impact can supposedly create 1000 ft lbs of torgue, not sure how it is measured.

Facts:
GMC 6500 flat bed truck 10 lug 33MM

MIXPOWER 6-Point 3/4-Inch Drive Deep Impact Socket- 33mm (Metric)

DEWALT 20V MAX Cordless Impact Wrench Kit, 20V MAX, Using an adapter ½ to ¾ broke only 7 of them

The 3 others used a 6 foot long pipe on a breaker bar with me 200 lbs standing on the end of it bouncing up and down
 
   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #162  
You did something wrong and torque (not torgue) on any impact tool is always measured in 'breakaway torque', never tightening torque.

Lucky you didn't bust your melon standing on the end of a 6 foot johnny bar (pipe) bouncing up and down. No breaker bar I know of can stand that level of abuse and survive very long.

You should have heated the lug nuts, applied some penetrant like PBlaster and heated them again before attempting to remove them and used your impact tool and not the johnny bar.
 
   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #163  
Wrong tool for the job and Harbor Freight tools are probably all made in China which should not give you a warm fuzzy feeling when it comes to durability. Use your impact tool with impact sockets or upgrade to 3/4" breaker bar and socket for this job.
 
   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #164  
Actually, I use Harbor Freight black oxide impact sockets all the time and I've never broken one yet. Only issue is they only come in 1/2" drive. I've split everything else, Snap-On and MAC included and they always fail the same way, they split up the side. I replace a lot of snowplow wear bars and they are always held on with grade 8 dome head plow bolts and they get corroded real bad so I just use the appropriate sized HD impact socket and shear the bolts off. Never heat them or use penetrant, just crank on them and they either fail or come apart.
 
   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #165  
harbor freight and craftsman have broken on me getting lug nuts loose. I am rough with them using a 6 ft pipe.

I do have a impact driver maybe that will work better.
harbor freight and craftsman have broken on me getting lug nuts loose. I am rough with them using a 6 ft pipe.

I do have a impact driver maybe that will work better.
You are nothing but a tool abuser. Heat your nuts and they will easily come off. Then replace all the studs and nuts...they are stripped
 
   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #166  
You did something wrong and torque (not torgue) on any impact tool is always measured in 'breakaway torque', never tightening torque.

Lucky you didn't bust your melon standing on the end of a 6 foot johnny bar (pipe) bouncing up and down. No breaker bar I know of can stand that level of abuse and survive very long.

You should have heated the lug nuts, applied some penetrant like PBlaster and heated them again before attempting to remove them and used your impact tool and not the johnny bar.
Good advise by 5030
Heat will break the bond through expansion of the nut. It's reliable with stubborn nuts when it's going to break off a stud before coming loose.
Heat will save the stud. There are exceptions but they are few. You only need heat the lug nut to a dull red but if you have several wheel lug nuts to heat up you may want to allow some cooling time of the hub in between after doing two or three nuts.
The faster you can get the nut hot and get the torch off of the nut you will have less heat sinking into the wheel and hub.
You don't want to cook your bearing grease.

Propane torch won't do. You need an Oxy/acet or Oxy/propane setup.
 
   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #167  
My solution, as I don't have the torque I used to have, is to load my tractor, skid steer, etc. and haul it to my tire dealer (~8 miles) into town. He can easily get said wheel off and repair made (even new tires), usually without unloading the tractor/skid steer. A big win for me!
 
   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #168  
I took a 12'x20' Quonset hut apart once. Hundreds of grade-5 5/16 bolts. They were rusted bad, so my son held the bolt head, and I was on the other side with a breaker bar snapping them off. There was no way that I was going to loosen all those bolts.
It went well.
 
   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #169  
Geargle
Thats a good solution but $$$ and hauling isn't always an option. I seldom pay for work.
Just my 2 cent outlook
 
   / I keep breaking 1/2 ratchets on my lug nuts. #170  
I had a busy local tire shop put new tires on my GMC dually. Miles later I decided to rotate the tires myself. I was 260+ Pounds and had a heck of a time loosening the nuts. I used a 2' breaker bar and really leaned into it. On every nut, it just popped like a gun going off when broke loose because they were so overly tight.

I was concerned about a wrench breaking beside the road in the future so I needed a fix. Every time I take the car or truck in for tire work I recheck the torque after I get home, even though I make them aware of my concern. The last time I checked when home, all the nuts were good except one whole wheel was a bit more than finger tight. I check for tighness and also to make sure they were not overlooked.

Because of this thread I bought a 3/4" 40" breaker bar and sockets. I do have a new torque multiplier I bought a couple years ago but I thought a breaker bar would be easier to figure out when changing a tire at midnight on the side of the road.
 

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