I Need a Bigger Tractor

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DanielDD

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John Deere 5090E
We purchased a 90 acre property with a beautiful home. Rolling hills and some flat areas here in southern Tennessee. Half the property is suitable for hay cutting, so it gets cut at least twice a year by someone else (back to this issue in a moment). I bought an L3901 4WD/geared tractor and a 6 foot brush cutter in late June. I have approximately 80 hours on the tractor as of late.

I like for the property to look nice and them cutting for hay only twice a year is not enough for me. Maybe this is something I just need to get over with...

Just found out the hay cutter will not be doing a 3rd cut this year, although I think it needs it. It is possible he may cut the lower hay field (20 acres), but that is yet to be determined. I am cutting all the other areas myself. I cut for 17 hours this week and I am probably half done, so I've got another 17-20 hours of cutting to do. At that point I don't expect to be on the tractor until next spring.

Bush hogging with a 6 foot cutter seems to take forever. I've looked into a Rhino TS10 flex cutter. My tractor will pull it according to the specs on it. List price is about $10K for the cutter. A 10 foot cut would be much preferred over a 6 foot cutter and would reduce my cutting time.

I like the L3901, it is agile, gets into tight places and is easy to drive - but it has one serious flaw. The ingress/egress of the tractor is a real pain. You can forget about getting off this tractor quickly. The gear shift is in your way. Additionally, I wish I had gotten the HST as a lot of back and forth cutting under trees leaves my knee hurting due to the significant clutch action.

So, I made a mistake in my tractor selection. I should have gotten a bigger tractor to accommodate a larger cutter and more operator room. I was overwhelmed with the newly purchased property and didn't know squat about what I really needed. I thought I was only going to have to cut the areas the hay cutter didn't cut, like under the tree line and in the woods, but it now evident to me more frequent cutting needs to be done.

I like the MX5400/6000 and I may opt for a cab model. I am seriously thinking about trading it in, but I don't know if they will give me a good trade in offer or not. I do own the tractor outright and will be paying for the upgrade out of pocket, so there will be no financing. Should have made the right decision the 1st time, but it seems I have learned a valuable, if not expensive lesson...
 
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One thing to consider, keeping everything mowed all spring / summer pretty much sucks for wildlife. You'll end up mowing up turkey nests, deer fawns etc plus with no cover from predators forget quail and many other bird species. Even if you don't hunt and never plan to consider reducing the amount of land that you keep cut.
Pick out some areas around your home or road frontage / driveway to keep up but also consider managing other areas with wildlife in mind.
Native grasses / wildflower areas are great to enjoy with their beauty as well as the butterflies, humming birds, bees, and all the other wildlife they attract. Keep you some paths cut out to ride / walk through between the native fields and go enjoy your 90 acres instead of trying to keep it looking like a golf course all the time.

I had a state biologist and a guy from Quail Forever help me plan out mine and couldn't be happier with the results. It is a multi year process that gets better every year.

Habitat Programs and Grants
 
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We purchased a 90 acre property with a beautiful home. Rolling hills and some flat areas here in southern Tennessee. Half the property is suitable for hay cutting, so it gets cut at least twice a year by someone else (back to this issue in a moment). I bought an L3901 4WD/geared tractor and a 6 foot brush cutter in late June. I have approximately 80 hours on the tractor as of late.

I like for the property to look nice and them cutting for hay only twice a year is not enough for me. Maybe this is something I just need to get over with...

Just found out the hay cutter will not be doing a 3rd cut this year, although I think it needs it. It is possible he may cut the lower hay field (20 acres), but that is yet to be determined. I am cutting all the other areas myself. I cut for 17 hours this week and I am probably half done, so I've got another 17-20 hours of cutting to do. At that point I don't expect to be on the tractor until next spring.

Bush hogging with a 6 foot cutter seems to take forever. I've looked into a Rhino TS10 flex cutter. My tractor will pull it according to the specs on it. List price is about $10K for the cutter. A 10 foot cut would be much preferred over a 6 foot cutter and would reduce my cutting time.

I like the L3901, it is agile, gets into tight places and is easy to drive - but it has one serious flaw. The ingress/egress of the tractor is a real pain. You can forget about getting off this tractor quickly. The gear shift is in your way. Additionally, I wish I had gotten the HST as a lot of back and forth cutting under trees leaves my knee hurting due to the significant clutch action.

So, I made a mistake in my tractor selection. I should have gotten a bigger tractor to accommodate a larger cutter and more operator room. I was overwhelmed with the newly purchased property and didn't know squat about what I really needed. I thought I was only going to have to cut the areas the hay cutter didn't cut, like under the tree line and in the woods, but it now evident to me more frequent cutting needs to be done.

I like the MX5400/6000 and I may opt for a cab model. I am seriously thinking about trading it in, but I don't know if they will give me a good trade in offer or not. I do own the tractor outright and will be paying for the upgrade out of pocket, so there will be no financing. Should have made the right decision the 1st time, but it seems I have learned a valuable, if not expensive lesson...

Your 3901 is marginal for even a light 6' rotary cutter and not nearly powerful or heavy enough for a 10' BW.

A MX6000 will operate a 10' BW in modest conditions but it will be working hard in anything but light cover.

Before buying a BW check the distance between the tractor drawbar and PTO shaft and the required distance as specified by the mower manufacturer. Not all BWs can be used with all Kubota tractors.

SDT
 
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Dusty - Perfect. Thank you for your enlightening post.
 
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We purchased a 90 acre property with a beautiful home. Rolling hills and some flat areas here in southern Tennessee. Half the property is suitable for hay cutting, so it gets cut at least twice a year by someone else (back to this issue in a moment). I bought an L3901 4WD/geared tractor and a 6 foot brush cutter in late June. I have approximately 80 hours on the tractor as of late.

I like for the property to look nice and them cutting for hay only twice a year is not enough for me. Maybe this is something I just need to get over with...

Just found out the hay cutter will not be doing a 3rd cut this year, although I think it needs it. It is possible he may cut the lower hay field (20 acres), but that is yet to be determined. I am cutting all the other areas myself. I cut for 17 hours this week and I am probably half done, so I've got another 17-20 hours of cutting to do. At that point I don't expect to be on the tractor until next spring.

Bush hogging with a 6 foot cutter seems to take forever. I've looked into a Rhino TS10 flex cutter. My tractor will pull it according to the specs on it. List price is about $10K for the cutter. A 10 foot cut would be much preferred over a 6 foot cutter and would reduce my cutting time.

I like the L3901, it is agile, gets into tight places and is easy to drive - but it has one serious flaw. The ingress/egress of the tractor is a real pain. You can forget about getting off this tractor quickly. The gear shift is in your way. Additionally, I wish I had gotten the HST as a lot of back and forth cutting under trees leaves my knee hurting due to the significant clutch action.

So, I made a mistake in my tractor selection. I should have gotten a bigger tractor to accommodate a larger cutter and more operator room. I was overwhelmed with the newly purchased property and didn't know squat about what I really needed. I thought I was only going to have to cut the areas the hay cutter didn't cut, like under the tree line and in the woods, but it now evident to me more frequent cutting needs to be done.

I like the MX5400/6000 and I may opt for a cab model. I am seriously thinking about trading it in, but I don't know if they will give me a good trade in offer or not. I do own the tractor outright and will be paying for the upgrade out of pocket, so there will be no financing. Should have made the right decision the 1st time, but it seems I have learned a valuable, if not expensive lesson...

Once AGAIN the old quote from TBN member Jeff9366 comes into play!

"BUY ENOUGH TRACTOR"

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SDT - The PTO specs on a 10 foot Rhino is 25HP minimum. The L3901 PTO HP is 32, so it will pull the implement, but I do agree the L3901 is marginal for a 6 foot rotary cutter. Even though I have used the cutter for the past 4 months, I have had no issue with pulling it. My hills are not extreme, so that may be a factor. The MX6000 has 52 PTO HP, so it should be no problem to pull even a TS12 cutter (specs on this cutter require 35-50PTO HP).

As far as whether the Rhino cutters can be used with a Kubota, I am not sure. Obviously, something to consider and investigate. Thank you for your input..
 
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Once AGAIN the old quote from Jeff966 comes into play!

"BUT ENOUGH TRACTOR"


Well... yeah, but my naivety got in the way of making the correct choice coming out of the gate...
 
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Consider negotiating a better deal for you with someone who wants to use your fields. For example, a penalty if they do not take a third cut by Oct off.

Buying a large tractor and equipment to cut grass seems like a poor option to me. Is there another crop that your land will support? Incorporating some of the suggestions offered by Dusty3030 are worth looking at as well. Maybe a mix of less cutting and better use of fields that are left.
 
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As whether the Rhino cutters can be used with a Kubota, I am not sure.

The Three Point Hitch ((TPH)) has had an industry standard since about 1960. There are several weights/sizes, but compact tractors discussed on TBN have either a Category 1 TPH or a Category 2 TPH.

The 2,700 pound bare weight L3901 has a Category 1 TPH. The 3,700 pound bare weight MX open station tractors have a Category 1/2 TPH. Category 1/2 TPH means MX has a Category 2 TPH but Kubota supplies a number of sleeve adaptors in the MX toolbox, so Category 1 implement pins and be sleeved up to Category 2 dimensions and mount on an MX Category 2 TPH without issue.



TPH DIMENSIONS: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...mensions-3point-hitch-standard-dimensions-jpg
 
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