**** I Need Some Help

[futuorganics]

Greetings,

I have a 2210D Yanmar Tractor. Recently I believe I made some serious mistakes while I was changing the battery.

1st- In short, my battery was dead. I took it to a local autozone to get it recharged. When I came back to the farm I removed my car battery from a 2003 Toyota Tundra, and stuck it in the tractor. I hooked what I thought were the positive and negative cables to the battery. I got some unusual sparks then some smoke came out of something on the left side of the tractor in front of the starter connected to what looks like a fan belt. What did I burn out?

2nd- I assumed that a regular car battery could be used. Is this true? And are the positive and negative cables on the tractor consistent with what is on the truck.

3rd- I was also in the process of changing the ignition switch. Is there a generic brand that I can use for the 2210D because the local yanmar dealer charges $50.00

Please Help /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[Whiskey]

futuorganics:

<font color="blue">1st- In short, my battery was dead. I took it to a local autozone to get it recharged. When I came back to the farm I removed my car battery from a 2003 Toyota Tundra, and stuck it in the tractor. I hooked what I thought were the positive and negative cables to the battery. I got some unusual sparks then some smoke came out of something on the left side of the tractor in front of the starter connected to what looks like a fan belt. What did I burn out?
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Opps.....that going to leave a mark now ain't it?......your having a rough go of it arn't you?

My guess it the alternator.

<font color="blue">2nd- I assumed that a regular car battery could be used. Is this true? And are the positive and negative cables on the tractor consistent with what is on the truck.
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I get my batteries at good ol' wally world in the auto section....just don't be crossin' the pos. & neg. connections /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

just a little tip from your buddy Whiskey....pos. is red / neg. is black

 

[futuorganics]

Which side of the tractor (if i am facing the front end) is the positive cable on, the left or right side?

 

[futuorganics]

oh, i FORGOT, THE CABLES AREN'T COLOR CODED

 

[Whiskey]

futuorganics:

OK,is this like a test or trick question?

man your making me think...and hard at that....I think it's the right hand side while standing infront of the tractor lookin' at it....better yet look on the battery and find the "+" mark for the pos. or red side and the "-" mark for the neg. or blace side of battery

 

[Whiskey]

futuorganics:

<font color="blue">oh, i FORGOT, THE CABLES AREN'T COLOR CODED </font>

Dang I hate when that happens.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

(pos. /red/hot) goes to the starter
(neg./ground/black) goes to the frame to be grounded

 

[reb]

If the cables are not color coded, look for the one connected to the chassis--that will connect to the negative terminal of the battery.

 

[SailorBob]

The car battery should work if the + and - are on the same side. The positive and negative sides of the battery are not always the same on all batteries. I remember that Chevy and Ford are just oposite. I am afraid you may have smoked the diode inyour alternator or if a DC generator you may have smoked the voltage regulator. Both can be easily replaced. OOps..........

 

[Jagmandave]

</font><font color="blueclass=small">( oh, i FORGOT, THE CABLES AREN'T COLOR CODED )</font>

This is why I recently replaced my worn out ones with color coded cables!

 

[futuorganics]

does this mean i need to replace the entire alternator?

 

[normde2001]

Maybe you ought not to be messin' with machinery /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif. That's the same alternator and regulator, (according to Hoye), as the YM2000/240, so I would take both to a NAPA Autoparts, or any parts store with test equipment and have them tested. Tell them they are out of a '72 Datsun/Nissan 510 w/o AC., (thanks to "California" for that info). They should be able to fix you up with identical parts for a small % of the cost of tractor parts.

 

[SailorBob]

Ditto to what Norm said. Have you tried replacing the battery and see if it starts and runs correctly? You may have gotten lucky. With the tractor running check the voltage and it should be about 13.6 volts if the alt is working correctly. Some shopps will just try to sell you a whole new altenator when all you need is the diode to be replaced. The mechanical regualtor is not repairable. The diode is easy to replace as well. Some are internal and some are external. If you do not have the expertise to replace the diode and auto electric shop can do it for a small chare

 

[normde2001]

Alternators don't usually work after losing their smoke, for any number of reasons, but it's worth your while to try it if you have a volt/ohm meter.

 

[kenmac]

Come on Norm. If you don't let the smoke out of stuff every now and then, you an't trying. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif