I think i broke my tractor

[ozley]

,,,: Two equally valid statements in a row.

That gives you two nickels. Now you have a dime see how far that will get you.

 

[sd455dan]

Anyone gone to the extent of replacing the bolts (that can be) with studs- maybe an ARP equivalent and say using red Locktight stud and bearing mount to retain them?? The bolts that mount my loader frame (KOYKER K-2) to the bottom of the transmission were loose, retightened and haven't moved for a year now.

But had they loosened again- that was/ is the plan

Anyone else share my thoughts that studs might be a better set-up in areas where they can be used, on loader frame mounts??

 

[SPYDERLK]

Anyone gone to the extent of replacing the bolts (that can be) with studs- maybe an ARP equivalent and say using red Locktight stud and bearing mount to retain them?? The bolts that mount my loader frame (KOYKER K-2) to the bottom of the transmission were loose, retightened and haven't moved for a year now.

But had they loosened again- that was/ is the plan

Anyone else share my thoughts that studs might be a better set-up in areas where they can be used, on loader frame mounts??

Studs would complicate the issue without improving it beyond what yould get with well engaged hi grade bolts that are tightened up enuf to stabilize the joint. Adhesives will not keep a mobile joint tight. It will loosen from wear while the fasteners sustain damage and get more and more inadequately tight.
larry

 

[sd455dan]

Studs would complicate the issue without improving it beyond what yould get with well engaged hi grade bolts that are tightened up enuf to stabilize the joint. Adhesives will not keep a mobile joint tight. It will loosen from wear while the fasteners sustain damage and get more and more inadequately tight.
larry

Since studs remain stationary during nut tightening, the studs stretch in one axis only, providing more accurate and even clamping force, also less wear to the parent material because once installed, only the nut turns ,extending the life of the threads. the depth of the stud to thread can be maximized with a stud by bottoming out the stud achieving maximum thread engagement. These would seem to be advantages to me.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Since studs remain stationary during nut tightening, the studs stretch in one axis only, providing more accurate and even clamping force, also less wear to the parent material because once installed, only the nut turns ,extending the life of the threads. the depth of the stud to thread can be maximized with a stud by bottoming out the stud achieving maximum thread engagement. These would seem to be advantages to me.

Torque has two contributors; 1] Friction under the head whether nut or bolt, 2] tension to pull in the thread helix [this has an appreciable friction component too]. ... #2 twists/torsions the shank of the bolt or stud identically.

Thread wear can be an issue - usually not, but in an aluminum casting I would definitely agree that the stud would have the advantage in repeated assembly.

You can come pretty close to using the full thread depth with a bolt. If thread depth is ample there is no benefit to using the very last thread.

Typically, studs would complicate installation and removal of a FEL. Bending, or damage to the exposed thread would be likely.
larry

 

[grsthegreat]

Just a heads up..... when i went to my local JD dealership to look at a new Stihl tree saw, they had a new tractor just being unloaded off the truck. The loader, loader support arms,bucket,etc were all crated up next to it.

These tractors are shipped sans loader...as the loader is a dealer option. The loader support arms wern't even installed upon delivery

maybe you shouldn't be too rash in blaming the manufacturer.....maybe the dealer is at fault.


by the way....that tractor sure looked pretty...all brand new and shiny. I think my Kioti might of smelled it on my clothes......hehe

 

[Jhiphop72]

Just a heads up..... when i went to my local JD dealership to look at a new Stihl tree saw, they had a new tractor just being unloaded off the truck. The loader, loader support arms,bucket,etc were all crated up next to it.

These tractors are shipped sans loader...as the loader is a dealer option. The loader support arms wern't even installed upon delivery

maybe you shouldn't be too rash in blaming the manufacturer.....maybe the dealer is at fault.

by the way....that tractor sure looked pretty...all brand new and shiny. I think my Kioti might of smelled it on my clothes......hehe

That is the way the green guys do it. LS is different. But im sure the resident thread troll will have something snappy to say about it.

 

[GManBart]

Just a heads up..... when i went to my local JD dealership to look at a new Stihl tree saw, they had a new tractor just being unloaded off the truck. The loader, loader support arms,bucket,etc were all crated up next to it.

These tractors are shipped sans loader...as the loader is a dealer option. The loader support arms wern't even installed upon delivery

maybe you shouldn't be too rash in blaming the manufacturer.....maybe the dealer is at fault.


by the way....that tractor sure looked pretty...all brand new and shiny. I think my Kioti might of smelled it on my clothes......hehe

LS ships them from the NC facility to dealers with the loader installed....in an enclosed trailer, no less.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Just a heads up..... when i went to my local JD dealership to look at a new Stihl tree saw, they had a new tractor just being unloaded off the truck. The loader, loader support arms,bucket,etc were all crated up next to it.

These tractors are shipped sans loader...as the loader is a dealer option. The loader support arms wern't even installed upon delivery

maybe you shouldn't be too rash in blaming the manufacturer.....maybe the dealer is at fault.

There is an interplay between assembly and design. Either or both, if they keep loosening theres a problem to find.
larry

 

[SPYDERLK]

That is the way the green guys do it. LS is different. But im sure the resident thread troll will have something snappy to say about it.

Did you read the link about bolted joints?