I think i'm being shafted.

   / I think i'm being shafted. #21  
Yes I know Google is my friend; but how about telling us non-Canucks what GST and HST means. In this case I'm sure HST does not mean HydroStatic Transmission. :D

GST = Goods and Services Tax - essentially a federal tax on most goods and services. its 5%. Provincial tax is applied seperate

HST = Harmonized sales tax - a combined tax that includes both provincial and federal (gst) in one. not all provinces use HST. mine does, its 15%

a province has to choose which method they want to use hst or gst
 
   / I think i'm being shafted. #22  
What do they do regarding the odometer readings? I'll bet a digital odometer is easy to set to whatever mileage one wants with the proper interface, software and passwords.

They are supposed to translate the current miles to kilometers. I believe in most modern cars the mileage is stored in the computer, as well as the date of any modifications. However only the dealer will have the software to look at that information.
 
   / I think i'm being shafted. #23  
Why can't you buy used, and bring it over the border. Will anyone know that you bought it in the US? It will have hours on the meter

Might work, I'm sure things get smuggled across the border every day, however, the CBS is trained to detect that kind of thing. First off - why is he in the US with his Canadian tractor in the first place? How did he get it over there? Can he prove he bought it in Canada. That's just a start - even assuming he can lie with a straight face.

If he gets busted at the border chances are he loses the tractor, the trailer, the tow truck and faces a fine. Is the risk worth saving $1,500 or so? I doubt many would take the chance.
 
   / I think i'm being shafted.
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Might work, I'm sure things get smuggled across the border every day, however, the CBS is trained to detect that kind of thing. First off - why is he in the US with his Canadian tractor in the first place? How did he get it over there? Can he prove he bought it in Canada. That's just a start - even assuming he can lie with a straight face.

If he gets busted at the border chances are he loses the tractor, the trailer, the tow truck and faces a fine. Is the risk worth saving $1,500 or so? I doubt many would take the chance.


Nope, not worth it. Even if I managed to pull off the lie, they WILL ask me to prove it is a Canadian piece of equipment, and there is no way I would be able to do that. **** they probably have a way of tracing where the machine was purchased originally just by the serial number.
 
   / I think i'm being shafted. #25  
Just a follow up based on bringing some boats from the US to Canada. Don't think you can show up at the border with something you bought on eBay and tell them you paid less than you really did.

Believe me, they can and will access eBay data at a level they know exactly what you paid. Once you have made your declaration, if they decide to investigate further it's pretty much "guilty until you prove innocence" and if your story changes - you are really in trouble.
 
   / I think i'm being shafted. #27  
I agree, sounds more like a govt/tax problem than a JD problem. I think Deere does have written into their US dealer agreements that they are not allowed to sell new into Canada, I am sure as protection for Canadian dealers. I would imagine lots of Dealers don't put a lot of weight into that part but some do. Good Luck
 
   / I think i'm being shafted. #28  
I agree, sounds more like a govt/tax problem than a JD problem.

I was in JD last week pricing out a 5085 and right on the computer it shows a line.. Canadian price adjustment I don't recall the amount but it was a lot more then what the exchange rate was.. :confused2:
 
   / I think i'm being shafted. #29  
If the price difference is greater than the exchange rate and shipping would account for; then it's excessive Gummint thievery driving the price up.
 
   / I think i'm being shafted. #30  
If the price difference is greater than the exchange rate and shipping would account for; then it's excessive Gummint thievery driving the price up.

No its Deere.

Not just deere, but Toyota, Kubota, GM, Ford..... you get the idea.

They come up with lame excuses, like "french Language compliance", "remote populations" etc. but the truth is "because they can". There was a time when the Canadian dollar was worth less than the US, but thats not entirely the case now.

Its so bad that the current conservative government intends on looking at why the discrepancy exists. Its gouging to me , pure and simple.

"When they (consumers) spend their hard-earned money, they deserve to pay a price that reflects the strength of the Canadian economy."

While there is no official cross-border comparison of consumer prices or the impact of currency fluctuations, Bank of Montreal economist Douglas Porter said last April that Canadians pay on average 20 per cent more on many items.

Comparing a limited basket of goods, Porter found that the gap had expanded during the run-up of the Canadian loonie -- which rose above US$1 late last year for the first time since the recession and stayed above par for most of 2011."


Flaherty asks for probe into Canada-U.S. price gap | CTV News
 

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