I tipped over my B3200HST

[Yzordderrex]

I got it back up on all 4 yesterday afternoon after sitting on it's side for a couple days. I figure I will let it sit for a day before I try to start it back up.


It was on it's left side. Anything I should be concerned about before starting - other than checking the oil levels and so forth?

regards,
Bob

 

[cdaigle430]

I got it back up on all 4 yesterday afternoon after sitting on it's side for a couple days. I figure I will let it sit for a day before I try to start it back up.


It was on it's left side. Anything I should be concerned about before starting - other than checking the oil levels and so forth?

regards,
Bob

I would remove the injectors to see if you have oil in them-you don't want to hydrolock your pistons\valves-very, very bad from what I've seen.

 

[bp fick]

Be in no rush to try and start it. If there is oil in the cylinders, you need to void that before trying to start it.

Glad you are OK.

 

[keyman1808]

If you have a KTAC policy I would call them first and see what they say. If not try and turn it manually first and see if it turns freely

 

[RoyJackson]

I got it back up on all 4 yesterday afternoon after sitting on it's side for a couple days. I figure I will let it sit for a day before I try to start it back up.


It was on it's left side. Anything I should be concerned about before starting - other than checking the oil levels and so forth?

regards,
Bob

Couple days, eh?

Odds are you do have oil above the pistons now. If you turn it manually (wrench on the end of the crankshaft), don't force it if it stops.

I think you'll have to pull the glow plugs or injectors though

 

[dodge man]

No personal experience here, but someone posted recently about starting a tractor that had been on its side. I think it was a Cub Cadet/Yanmar, and he bent a rod. Pull the glow plugs or injectors and spin it to force any oil or fuel out. Diesels are such high compression, any fluid on top of the piston will bend things.

 

[46andtool]

I'm sure the tractor will be fine if you follow the above advice.
More importantly, are you ok? Did the ROPS/seatbelt play a part in your safety?

 

[CowwFace]

Hey YoZo,

Yeowzers, hope you are ok. How did you tip her over?

I would NOT touch that starter key at ALL until you pull the glowplugs or injectors out and get the oil out of the cylinders.

If there is oil in the cylinders above the pistons ... and you try to start it with the key ... it will (100% certainty) bend or break something ... a connecting rod, Crank shaft etc ... and you will need an engine rebuild.... An engine rebuild while pride is recovering from tip over is not a good combo.

DON'T TOUCH THAT KEY MAN!!! (at least till oil status in cylinders is determined)

IMHO of coarse.

Tractor on, (but not till oil status in cylinders is known)

 

[KennyV]

Like everyone has stated... REMOVE the glow plugs... (easier than removing injectors)...
Turn it over by Hand first and then with the starter, let it spin for a good 30 seconds or more WITH the glow plugs out...

Also get some baking soda and mix it with water... then wash down every place around the battery, using the b soda mixture... finish with a water rinse.. battery acid gets every where and will eat everything up... KennyV

 

[MHarryE]

I have had the unhappy experience of having to right machines that had rolled (unhappy because some were fatal accidents). Actually some were just fly down, investigate the accident, and start the machine because the machine had already been righted to extricate an unbelted victim. Even when the machine had been lying on its side for several days it was a case of let it sit upright for a couple days and they start with no problem after checking and topping off fluids. People talk about hydraulic lock from oil getting past the rings but in probably a dozen incidents I have never seen anything like that. My primary thing, other than investigating the accident, was making sure the machine was safe to put back on the job. Checking the ROPS in any rollover is important. Some dealers insist a ROPS be replaced (if it is their rental machine - make the renter replace the ROPS) but I have only recommended replacing 1 ROPS - from a 45+ mph rollover.

 

[whiskywizard]

Like everyone has stated... REMOVE the glow plugs... (easier than removing injectors)...
Turn it over by Hand first and then with the starter, let it spin for a good 30 seconds or more WITH the glow plugs out...

Also get some baking soda and mix it with water... then wash down every place around the battery, using the b soda mixture... finish with a water rinse.. battery acid gets every where and will eat everything up... KennyV

Good advice - something that would be easy to overlook.

 

[SPYDERLK]

If you have a KTAC policy I would call them first and see what they say. If not try and turn it manually first and see if it turns freely

:thumbsup: ... Make sure you go 2 full turns or more. "Springy" resistance is ok, but any sudden bump in the feel is fluid. If you get a bump try turning it backward. This will let you approach TDC from the intake side and the valves should be off their seats and be able to relieve fluid. If you can get smooth/springy rotation backward, then rotate again forward.
larry

 

[KTAC]

If you did get our insurance (KTAC), don't do anything to it. Call the dealer to pick it up and take care of it for you and all you will pay is the $250 deductible. Otherwise, the rest of the gang is giving you some good advice.

Brian

 

[Bota Bum]

Thank you Brian! Good to see KTAC monitors what we guys are doing. Myself, I find the offered insurance a great value. I got my BX to mow and find myself doing so much more, both on and off my property. I'm glad KTAC has my back!

I must be a true tractorhead, this past summer I find myself each night or weekend trying to decide, ride the Harley or ride the Kubota. This year, the Kubota was the winner, LOL! Let's see, maybe sell one of the bikes to put a "B" in the barn to compliment the BX....

 

[Yzordderrex]

Thank you all for replies and advice. I was tooling along on a slight slope and hit a small granite rock with inside rear wheel. That was all it took. I had traveled that ridge many times without mishap. I got machine up on all 4 feet last week, so been sitting upright for quite a while. I'll see if I can spin it over with a wrench before I go with the starter. I prefer not to remove glo plugs. If I can get a turn or so on crank I would hope oil would have found it's way back past the rings.

Tip over was recognized early on and was like a slow motion event. I decided to remove seat belt and jump clear. Machine didn't tumble - thank you Lord.

regards,
Bob

 

[crazyal]

I have gotten in the habit of keeping my hand on the fel lever or close enough too it so I can quickly drop the bucket on anything that even looks slightly out of level. Had to drop it on more than one occasion because of a hidden rock or soft spot I didn't see.

I think your plan is fine, turn the engine over a few times with a wrench, if all seams fine then try to turn it over with the key. Don't forget to check the engine oil level. I don't think I would go the insurance route because I don't think it will cost you more than the deductible if you brought it to the dealer.

 

[RoyJackson]

I'll see if I can spin it over with a wrench before I go with the starter. I prefer not to remove glo plugs. If I can get a turn or so on crank I would hope oil would have found it's way back past the rings.

Tip over was recognized early on and was like a slow motion event. I decided to remove seat belt and jump clear. Machine didn't tumble - thank you Lord.

regards,
Bob

Best of luck to you... Heed SPYDERLK's advice...hope it works out OK for you~

 

[forby]

I have gotten in the habit of keeping my hand on the fel lever or close enough too it so I can quickly drop the bucket on anything that even looks slightly out of level. Had to drop it on more than one occasion because of a hidden rock or soft spot I didn't see.

I think your plan is fine, turn the engine over a few times with a wrench, if all seams fine then try to turn it over with the key. Don't forget to check the engine oil level. I don't think I would go the insurance route because I don't think it will cost you more than the deductible if you brought it to the dealer.

Funny...

With only 42 hrs of seat time, mostly carrying copious amounts of firewood, I have learned the same thing. I keep my right hand on the FEL lever at all times. I goose it down as necessary and raise it as needed. Anytime I feel one of the rears getting loose, I am prepared to drop the FEL.

I also keep my 500 pound rear weight as low as possible, nearly dragging the ground in some cases.

I'm usually at max weight on the loader and found that every little bump changes the geometry.

I even find myself leaning opposite the tilt regardless of how small.

 

[JimRB]

How high are you guys running your loader? The owners manual warns about keeping the loader up especially on slopes. I live on "level" ground so when I am mowing the only time my loader is up is when I am mowing close to fences in corners. When I am moving manure the loader bucket is below the top of the hood until it is time to dump. On foreign ground having the bucket low means the bucket is there finding foreign objects like large rocks hidden by grass. That little rock/boulder you did not see when operating on a slope quickly can put you to tip over, same for a rodent hole or rotted out stump hole. My seat belt is on most of the time I am operating the tractor as I would feel really stupid being dead because I was not wearing my seat belt. I might not wear the seatbelt when moving implements around but the land truly is level where I store the tractor and implements.

 

[kuboman]

Just a word of caution about turning over the engine with a wrench as you can still bend a rod with a wrench. Removing the glow plugs is not a difficult task and the only way you can be sure there is no oil in the cylinders. Even with the GP's out you still want to turn it with a wrench very slowly.:thumbsup: