Ice on Piston

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skidoo

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Montana - Growing Zone 5
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JD 2520, JD X749, JD110TLB
Just thinking here... I have a new 110TLB with a front blade, but I'm considering not using it much of this winter season, continuing most of the plowing with the 2520. The reason is since I have no where to shelter it, it sits here exposed to the elements and I have found ice stuck to the bucket pistons. Since it has been below 0 for a while, the ice will tend to stay, and my concern is the ice breaking seals. I never had this concern with my 2520, primarily because it is parked under a covered deck and as it sits, the pistons tend to be fully retracted (therefore protected). Another thing is my 2520 pistons do not appear chromed like the nice and shiny 110:)

Well, I thought about parking it another way such that the 110 pistons are fully retracted too, but then, the angle pistons on the blade are exposed some, no matter which direction it is angled. So, they would be more at risk of seal damage.

Is this something you would be concerned with? If so, how would you deal with it? I'm planning to get a shelter for it before next season.
 

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Nice picture! And that new 110 ain't too bad, either... :)

My 110 sits outside in one of those vinyl carports that you can find at Sam's Club or Costco, etc.
Keeps the rain and snow (and sun - whenever it shines up here) off.

I generally plug the tractor in for an hour or two (tranny heater and block heater) and then let it idle for 15 min or so before I move it. I wipe the cylinders off with my glove before I cyle things if it's got a coating of frost, etc.

My old JD970 stayed outside in the carport for 4 winters and I never had a leaky cylinder anywhere on it - and I used it to move all the snow here on the place and down the road for a couple of the neighbors, too.

I also made it a point not to push the hydraulics to the end of the cylinders travel until I was fairly certain that (partial back-forth cylinder movement) I had warm fluid in the cylinders and warm seals.

AKfish
 
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Can you just put a large tarp over it to keep elements off it
 
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I read once, about rubber bellows attachments that could be put on cylinder rods for protection. But I don't know where a guy would find them.
 
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Might try wrapping a Wally World sack around the piston for protection or melting the ice off with a hair dryer before using.
 
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It won't be an issue. If it was every piece of equipment, loader, snowplow, excavator, power steering ram, trash truck etc.... etc.... would be spewing fluid everytime the temps dropped below 32.
 
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It won't be an issue. If it was every piece of equipment, loader, snowplow, excavator, power steering ram, trash truck etc.... etc.... would be spewing fluid everytime the temps dropped below 32.

Definately agree.
 
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If you so concerned, why not spread vaseline all over the rods ? It will keep air from oxiding the chrome, keep ice from sticking, and most importantly keep moisture off from it.
 
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i agree with radioman... vaseline would help a lot
 
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the instructions for my kubota say to spread a thin coating of grease on pistons that are to be stored for awhile. i would think you could get a small paint brush and just use the excess that squirts out when you grease the fittings on the tractor and spread it around on the exposed pistons.

amp
 
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I think putting VASELINE on the chrome would trap dirt and eventually take out a seal. Better to do nothing.
 
   / Ice on Piston #12  
I think putting VASELINE on the chrome would trap dirt and eventually take out a seal. Better to do nothing.

Hmm doesnt the seal "wipes" the vaseline off like a wiper. Using grease is messy. Vaseline is easier to clean up. Just use a rag and wife off before first use. Ok if there is dirt on stuck on it , a simple wipe would wipe it off and the seal would squeeze out the rest of vaseline.

If the pistons are not used as much, wouldnt rust spots on the piston ruin the seals more VS the dirty vaseline ? Which is more benefical?
 
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The central question would be - long term storage or not? If he's gonna leave the 110 sit all winter - then grease (or vaseline) on the exposed cylinders is a good idea.

If he's gonna use the machine for big snows (I sure would with an 8' blade) then the need for grease protection is likely not a big concern.

Warm 'em up - Wipe 'em down - get with it!

AKfish
 
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Well, I couldn't wait any longer. Only had an inch of new snow today, but I tried it out today. I checked the pistons and wiped them down. Didn't find any ice on them. Anyway, it sure seemed stronger and able to move more snow, except I have to learn some technique for this to have any steering. With it light in front this way, the 2520/rear blade is actually faster and cleaner with the light snows. I think this 110 will be better for the heavier snows and probably without the BH, steering will be better. But, I don't want to remove it until I have a building to put it in.
 
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...Vaseline is easier to clean up. Just use a rag and wife off before first use. ...

Does this actually work?:D
Not sure my wife would agree to it, she leaves the tractor to me so far.
 
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Does this actually work?:D
Not sure my wife would agree to it, she leaves the tractor to me so far.

:eek: opps - wipe not wife .. My wife is gonna kill me tonight :rolleyes:
 

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