woodgrub
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hi,i have splitter mounted on my ute,cut,split,load at stump.drive home,finished.
Ideas for splitter cylinder length. European methods? Multiple rounds at once?
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woodgrub
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i cut 12 to 14inch,use losplitterloglifter if rounds are too heavy on to splitterbench,split and straight into 3cub cage on ute.job finished,,deliver to client,i cut ironbark,greybox mostly asthey are premium hardwoods and get premium price.
woodgrub
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cutting firewood into 1 foot blocks,splitting,loaded,delivered,wood is handled to a minimum.i also tow 2 cub trailer behind 3 cub ute, splitter mounted on ute means i can cut and split,load anywhere without double handling,when i leave the forest the splitwood is ready to be delivered. every other cutter up hear tows splitters to the forest,when they could be towing a load home behind their loaded vehicle.
Renze
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YouTube - Mottimaster Klapikone
this is what i bought, on advice of a relative in finland who lives a couple of miles from the factory.
Nothing beats this in speed, it does splinter a bit but chainsaws make a lot of fines too...
We will make a splitting jaw this summer, to cut bigger logs to a size that this mottimaster will eat: YouTube - Spaltzange
The mottimaster eats populars as big as the blade opening will accept. fresh oak up to 7 inch, dried oak 5 inch.
the shear bolts break sometimes when you hit a knot but they are standard M8x35 bolts.
this is what i bought, on advice of a relative in finland who lives a couple of miles from the factory.
Nothing beats this in speed, it does splinter a bit but chainsaws make a lot of fines too...
We will make a splitting jaw this summer, to cut bigger logs to a size that this mottimaster will eat: YouTube - Spaltzange
The mottimaster eats populars as big as the blade opening will accept. fresh oak up to 7 inch, dried oak 5 inch.
the shear bolts break sometimes when you hit a knot but they are standard M8x35 bolts.
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Scooby074
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I think im in love! 
YouTube - Film Bündelautomat
Im pretty sure the bundles at the end are 1.5 m3. If so, ~2 would be a cord. Having someone come up with a grapple and drop say 16 of them in my yard for the winter would be pretty good. No muss, no fuss. nice and neat and ready to go. NO STACKING!!! :thumbsup:Sure beats a dumptruck piling a mountain of splits in my yard.
Locally HW logs are about 100/cord. Split wood is $185-200/cord dumped in your driveway, not stacked. Would there be a market for either bundled long splits to be cut by the end user (less likely due to being a completely unfamiliar technique) or bagged 18 to 24" splits (more likely)? As shown in this video YouTube - Film Kurzholzautomat
How much would someone pay for the benefit of no labour and mess to clean up? Could it be profitable ???:thumbsup:
YouTube - Film Bündelautomat
Im pretty sure the bundles at the end are 1.5 m3. If so, ~2 would be a cord. Having someone come up with a grapple and drop say 16 of them in my yard for the winter would be pretty good. No muss, no fuss. nice and neat and ready to go. NO STACKING!!! :thumbsup:Sure beats a dumptruck piling a mountain of splits in my yard.
Locally HW logs are about 100/cord. Split wood is $185-200/cord dumped in your driveway, not stacked. Would there be a market for either bundled long splits to be cut by the end user (less likely due to being a completely unfamiliar technique) or bagged 18 to 24" splits (more likely)? As shown in this video YouTube - Film Kurzholzautomat
How much would someone pay for the benefit of no labour and mess to clean up? Could it be profitable ???:thumbsup:
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Scooby074
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They are a cool machine. Is it Hard to hold onto the log when the knife cuts it? It looks to kick around a bit. I wonder how it'd work in our wood over here. lots of larger oak and hard maple. Ash. Little Birch. Nobody buys/sells poplar for firewood.
Any opinions on the 1m "long" european splits compared to the NA style of cut to length, then split? Advantages?
bem1965
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Hi!
FYI in europe we do not have a common way to process wood into heat!
If I were to build a woodprocessor I would take a look at many different solutions!
I like a system as others here, were you do not handle the wood more than nessesary!
Take a look at YouTube - Transportador PW
A Swedish system by takskydd taks臾erhet sn?臘ke vedklyv takbryggor vedkap vedmaskin - Per Wikstrand AB
We have a lot of trees (280 hectars) this processor take timber up to 28 cm diameter (11 inches), bigger trees we send to the sawmill.
I use a similar machine with transporter (or whatever it is called in english). The split wood is either dumped directly into the one of the woodsheds and left to dry until next winter, or the split wood is dumped into mesh sacks that are stacked to dry. As others here I do not like to handle the wood and I only stack wood in 60 litre sacks (about 16 gallons). These sacks are a perfect size to transport and sell. This machine is ideal for a one man operation!
All the best from a small part of Europe!
FYI in europe we do not have a common way to process wood into heat!
If I were to build a woodprocessor I would take a look at many different solutions!
I like a system as others here, were you do not handle the wood more than nessesary!
Take a look at YouTube - Transportador PW
A Swedish system by takskydd taks臾erhet sn?臘ke vedklyv takbryggor vedkap vedmaskin - Per Wikstrand AB
We have a lot of trees (280 hectars) this processor take timber up to 28 cm diameter (11 inches), bigger trees we send to the sawmill.
I use a similar machine with transporter (or whatever it is called in english). The split wood is either dumped directly into the one of the woodsheds and left to dry until next winter, or the split wood is dumped into mesh sacks that are stacked to dry. As others here I do not like to handle the wood and I only stack wood in 60 litre sacks (about 16 gallons). These sacks are a perfect size to transport and sell. This machine is ideal for a one man operation!
All the best from a small part of Europe!
i think it depends a lot on what you have around for equipment to handle the wood. i cut and stack everything so that the finished project is 16" and no bigger in diameter than a 4x4. i have a small splitter that i built myself to run off my tractor's hydraulics. last year i cut and split 7 cord, but since i split into such small pieces, i would bet that i actually cycle the splitter as much or more than some people who split 15+ cord a year. i will say that splitting is by far the slowest and most tedious part of my process, but i don't know if there is any better way for me. here's a few things i would think about:
if you don't intend on having a log lift then it would be pretty awkward to put green 2' diameter, 4' oak logs up on a splitter bed.
if you don't have a good saw rig to then chop the 4' split pieces up, then it might be a nuisance. i needed a little extra wood one winter and i got a good deal on what they call "limb wood" around here. it was all 4' lengths of rounds that ranged from 2" to 6" in diameter - basically, stuff that doesn't need to be split. the only thing i had to cut it with was a chain saw, and to be honest, it was rather tedious chopping all those small rounds into 16" lengths. if i had a tractor mounted cordwood saw, it probably wouldn't be as bad.
i like to have all my wood cut and stacked under cover before winter hits. i don't want to have to be out in the snow finishing the processing of my wood so i can burn it that night. if i cut and split it long, i would have to stack it then, and then unstack it to chop it to length, then re-stack it to have it ready before snow. seems like more handling instead of less.
i don't think there is any perfect way to do it that covers everyone's needs. if it were me, i'd think about how you want the final product and then weigh the pros and cons of the different methods.
if you don't intend on having a log lift then it would be pretty awkward to put green 2' diameter, 4' oak logs up on a splitter bed.
if you don't have a good saw rig to then chop the 4' split pieces up, then it might be a nuisance. i needed a little extra wood one winter and i got a good deal on what they call "limb wood" around here. it was all 4' lengths of rounds that ranged from 2" to 6" in diameter - basically, stuff that doesn't need to be split. the only thing i had to cut it with was a chain saw, and to be honest, it was rather tedious chopping all those small rounds into 16" lengths. if i had a tractor mounted cordwood saw, it probably wouldn't be as bad.
i like to have all my wood cut and stacked under cover before winter hits. i don't want to have to be out in the snow finishing the processing of my wood so i can burn it that night. if i cut and split it long, i would have to stack it then, and then unstack it to chop it to length, then re-stack it to have it ready before snow. seems like more handling instead of less.
i don't think there is any perfect way to do it that covers everyone's needs. if it were me, i'd think about how you want the final product and then weigh the pros and cons of the different methods.
