ideas how to raise small 12 x 20 shed

[EddieWalker]

Can you remove the landscape timbers one at a time?

If so, I'd remove them along one wall and fit bricks in underneath at two foot intervals. Just a stack of bricks to keep it level.

Do this on all four sides and get all the timbers out of there. This should leave the shed walls floating above the ground with just the stacks of bricks holding up the building. Make sure the building is level.

Then put some forms around the outside of the building at the height of the bottom of the walls. Lay out some 3/8 rebar on 2 foot centers and tie it together. Put the rebar on chairs, or rocks, or small piecs of brick, or whatever to get it off the ground and in the air. Drill some holes in your sill plate and put some bolts in there or use proper anchors. I think a bolt that's upside down wiht the threads going up would work fine. Just put a washer and nut on the end so it wont fall through the sill plate.

Pour the concrete in the building from the farthest point back and work your way in. You can use the bottom of the walls to work your scree and do a smooth hand finish as you go. It won't be profesional smooth, but it will be fine for storing stuff.

Don't worry about the bricks, just pour around them and make sure you get the concrete under the sill plate as good as you can. Again, it doesn't have to be perfect, it's just a shed.

Good luck,
Eddie

 

[SPIKER]

hey all:

the shed size is 12'4" outside wide by 16'4" SO that means going to the next size up for the treated 2x6 T&G skirt boards. so I called around & got some prices, the least expensive 14' was 10.89 each. that would go across the shed * 2 per foot + 1 for the extra 4" so that is ~35 boards to run the full lenght with a bit over for the fact they are not a full 6" that comes to = $381.15+ tax


so the concrete would be probably cheaper IF I can get them to deliver the small quanity I need (which is a little less than 2 yards @ ~80/yard) BUT I also have problems with getting the truck around back NOW due to it has rained for 4+ days here. ARGH

anyhow I do have one or two projects that need some crete work but getting what I need soon enough would be the problem as now my monday is shot due to requireng more tests prior to getting the operation done. (seems they found MORE things wrong with me than I already knew of)

well anyhow I got to get going to work so maybe the best way will be the wood but more $. Primary reason no cure time, no getting a truck stuck in yard & lots less prep required. down side would take most of a day to get shed up & boards down & shed down. big up side as soon as it's down I can move stuf into it and lock the doors.

mark M

 

[SPIKER]

Hi All:
Project is on hold untill I get better:

Had my gaul bladder out, was susposed to be a 30~45 min operation, took almost 4 hrs and I'm in poor shape. I walked out of hospital next morning after herinia operation and didn't hurt nearly as bad, 2 day later I can hardly move from this one!... 4 holes in me from the proceedure but he managed without fully opening me up...

anyhow I got the shed cleaned out pretty good inside day prior to my operation. The landscape timbers are screwed into the 2x4 sill plate and I installed more screws the day b4 the operation so that the timbers go UP when I do get to raise the shed. I also screwed on a 2x6 across the back wall of the shed and have one cut for the front wall/door section. that will be what I attach jacks to raise the shed with. I'm looking at my old job for some loaner I beams to span the width of the shed to support it up in the air while I work on the floor. either way (boards or crete) will need the shed up some to work. the rocks under the thing are some what placed OK but sand will cover it all to make a better/level area to work from. Heavy industrial plastic sheeting is also there for this project ready to use...

but not untill I get better...

Mark M

 

[SPIKER]

did a little more work this week got some sand in & leveled with my brothers help, and will post some photos later this week as it progresses. I got some hints sent via PM where someone moved one similar to my shed, though I'm only going UP far enough to pour crete (what I decided to do so I'm getting a project done that needs crete as well so I can do 2 pours one after other. I have 2x6's already screwed to the side walls and sand placed in for crete base & leveled. I was planning on useing same method of corner bracing under the 2x6s to lift with & hyd jacks.

I'm using blocks two on each corner, setting on 2x12'xs and then run brace across UNDER the corner from block to block and let shed down onto the corner braces, so floor can be poured with out much in way other than the corners... Have to remove a bush & get the blocks up close first, and also then geyt some 2x4's down for crete guides..

Mark M

 

[SPIKER]

Hi All:

more photos:

I got the shed up in the air, 12" or more and have the sand in it and am ready to lay the plastic & rebar. unfortuneatly the digital camera is messing up and many of the photos didn't turn out, (red & green lines all through the photo with very little viewable detail) Not sure what is up with the camera some are half covered but viewable others are wasted.)?

ANYHOW I uploaded the most viewable photos to photobucket and will post thumbnails to see large view simply click the photo thumbnails.


above I said I was using 2x12's, was miss print here is what we actually have done so far.

I stopped at local amish saw mill & bought 4 - 4' long 4"x 6"s and 4 - 5' long 4x6"s rough sawn oak. actually some of them were more like 6' long but had bark on em, no biggie. I had a big supply of 6x6 treated post cutoffs for blocking and the 4' - 4x6's were to use UNDER the interior bracing and 5' on outter bracing which is where the jacks were placed (inside) and where the shed was lowered onto (outside bracing) and plenty of cement blocks under the outter 4x6"s with a bunch of 2x for blocking & misc jack supports... One of them had a bad spot near the center so I reinforced it with a 2x6 screwed into it as we had to use the 4x6's the weak way (4" side was lifting up not the 6" side) I messed up by putting the 2x6 wall bracing too low to get the bottel jacks under the jack beams the 6" way. the farm jacks wouldn't have mattered which I had already asked friend if I could use his and never got a responce so I used what I had. We also added a center 2x4 up to the roof to help the center of the 4x6smove some of the force from jack point up to roof supports these can be seen in a couple of photos, we also braced up the 2x6 door wall brace by adding a 2x4 tied into the 2x6 & door frame roof.



"(edit in) Also I ended up using 3 bottel jacks, and one floorjack, which was a mistake, the bottel jacks worked well but the floor jack which moves in an ARC was a near disaster! This caused the shed to twist some as the floor jack raised UP it also pulled BACK on the shed causeing it to fall/twist over, (we were LUCKY & because we were SAFE as we kept blocking under the jack beams at all times and was never more than an inch away from solid blocking...) Going back down I'm going to go & buy a 4th bottel jack as I don't want the same thing to happen! It would have been a snap with 4 farm jacks as they have the reach to make a lot more travel with out having to stop, block up, set shed down onto blocking remove jacks block up jacks, go up 3" start all over. (you get the picture) anyhow that is way we have gone so far.
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Mark M

 

[SPIKER]

Hey All:

Well I have the crete in but got a raining on some of it. GRRR anyhow not too bad a finished job for 2 ole dummies like myself & my brother, whom did much/most of the work, as I'm off work for my operation on recovery... I got a few more pics, and most every thing went well, the worst part was one of my brothers pups was run over by the tractor while he was driving. very sad was the sweetest thing too. my brothers boy was susposed to be watching the 2 of them but he didn't keep close eye on them and when my bro backed up he ran over it. now only 1 pup left from the litter.

now better news, photos of the job.

here is door apron


inside shed



autographed by my brother



door appron prior to the pour



nefue & pup Princes (ya he has a black eye why he was home from school, got 2 days off for fighting but the other kid who started it was 18, & eneded up much worse looking ) anyhow


my ugly mug with princes, DOTTY was a nearly identical pup and was put to rest the day prior after she ran under the tractor tire, I put princes paws in the crete in her honer.


Mark M