If there are aliens, what will they look like?

[the old grind]

As for satellites falling to Earth when coming out of orbit vs the moon going away we have to acknowledge the many magnitudes greater the Moon is from our planet. Satellites orbit dozens of miles from us while the Moon is many thousands away. Our gravity and friction of whatever aura or aurora around us has a much stronger effect on orbit velocity vs the vacuum of space.

Gravity pulls man-made objects down as their velocity is reduced but the moon is orbiting much slower. It is also spiraling away from us vs in a stationary orbit so its slowing down is mitigated the pull of our gravity but not enough yet to overcome it. Both Earth and the moon are pulling toward each other. The slowing of the lunar velocity proportionally too low to compensate for the escape.

Heck of it is that the Sun may run out of fuel before the Moon escapes orbit. That rate/amount/time cannot be measured or accurately predicted. I've heard years ago that it could be in as few as 5 million years or as many as 50 million. We would not survive a transition from yellow dwarf to red giant when that happens. Compared to ~4 1/2 billion years since our Solar system was formed the Sun is very far along in life as they say.

Of note regarding our planet's span of time, the ascent of man, and civilization: Cleopatra lived closer in time to the moon landing than to the construction of the pyramids, the first being built while the woolly mammoth was still alive. There is more time between the last of Stegosaurus and the demise of T-Rex than between the T-Rex and us. The Stegosaurus was last seen 150 million years ago, while the first Tyrannosaurus Rex appeared 67 million years ago. We're not forever, and Elvis is still dead.

 

[CalG]

The moon is speeding up!

Call it a "Tidal wave".

Just the facts

 

[the old grind]

Perhaps that's why it's slowly & steadily 'escaping' its orbit around us and IMO we're far from disagreeing on anything .. so far.

btw, if neither optical (see celestial navigation) or laser methods were/are precise on the distance they each will still give comparative measurements (see repeatable vs absolute accuracy) by repeated observations to recognize whether the Moon is 'coming or going'. I wonder if the supposed 1 ft away per 100 yrs has been more accurately determined in this Century.

 

[Jstpssng]

So let's put this nonsense about the moon landings being faked to rest. It's crap.

Oh come on, don't be such a spoilsport. Everybody loves a good conspiracy theory. Next you'll be telling us that JFK isn't living on a tropical island with Elvis and Marilyn.

 

[MossRoad]

As for satellites falling to Earth when coming out of orbit vs the moon going away we have to acknowledge the many magnitudes greater the Moon is from our planet. Satellites orbit dozens of miles from us while the Moon is many thousands away. ...

I'd say hundreds not dozens, and there's about 3 different altitudes that they put things into orbit on a regular basis. Thinks like the space station and hubble telescope are hundreds of miles in low earth orbit, which is around 3500 miles or less. Things like GPS are around 12,500 miles, and things like TV satellites are around 22,000 miles.

The moon is about 240,000 miles away

 

[MossRoad]

Oh come on, don't be such a spoilsport. Everybody loves a good conspiracy theory. Next you'll be telling us that JFK isn't living on a tropical island with Elvis and Marilyn.

How a conspiracy works...

 

[the old grind]

Moss, IMO as a comparison 10:1 is a ratio & hardly a par. But could it could explain the moon's ~monthly orbit being similarly compared to a stationary one of 24 hrs, and vet my inference that there's much difference in rate or distance after all?

Asking for the geezled Earthling whose account I hacked into.

btw, what day is it? Feels like Thursday from a viewpoint while orbiting Earth in my flying disc. Maybe it depends on what time zone I'm above at any moment.

 

[tradosaurus]

Triple I used a Foonly F1 computer to do some of the work for the movie Looker in 1981 and Tron in 1982.

Remember how crappy the graphics were in Tron compared to today's movies? That was state of the art in 1982, 13 years after the moon landing.

Here's the clip from Looker, 1981. The first realistic CGI human body. Again, 12 years after the moon landing.

A note, about 45 seconds into it, you see the hand. They reused that from the 1971 first motion capture, as it was so hard to recreate, even 10 years later.

At the time of the moon landings in 1969, there were no computers powerful enough or that had enough storage capable of rendering and storing the images. It would have taken years to render.

I have a nephew in the film industry. He's currently a special effects director for a major popular series. His job after college was rendering these types of things and he's been in the industry about 20 years. He laughs hard at anyone that thinks they had the technology in 1969, as do I.

The moon landings were filmed in a studio with the help of Stanley Kubrick.
2001 Space Odyssey came out in 1968 so faking space would be really easy.
Now NAZA uses hollywood techniques as demonstrated in the movie Gravity.

 

[MossRoad]

The moon landings were filmed in a studio with the help of Stanley Kubrick.

They were not.

 

[RoyJackson]

The moon landings were filmed in a studio with the help of Stanley Kubrick.
2001 Space Odyssey came out in 1968 so faking space would be really easy.
Now NAZA uses hollywood techniques as demonstrated in the movie Gravity.

Where do you come up with this stuff?