I'm done with Levis (Rant)

[downsizingnow48]

I changed to LL Beans mail order about 20 years ago. Always fits exactly the same and wears well. Plus no driving, no store searching, no fitting.

 

[M5farms]

i quit Levis last year because of their 2nd amendment stance. I was a 569 guy and I wear jeans everyday. carhartts are good but thick . For the farm its shorts and boots in the summer and overalls in the winter

 

[tractorshopper]

My last 2 pair of Levis fit weren't the same, one of them had stiches come out of a beltloop within 3 weeks (maybe worn once a week each, twice at most), holes in the upper pocket in both sides of rear within 6 months, leg seams twisted after first wash, etc. Don't think I'll ever buy them again. Overpriced poor quality now.

Wranglers are okay and better quality, but they tend to fall off my hind end more as the day goes.

Just bought first two pair of Lucky's at the outlets and like them so far especially for comfort but haven't had long enough to tell (my wife's suggestion), but Tommy Hilfiger is probably the best quality I have experienced recently, except as all the others, they are thinner than jeans used to be.

I probably average 5 pairs of jeans per year now.

Used to be a pair would last for 4 or more years, but about a year to two per pair now.

Thanks to this thread, I may try a pair of Deluth jeans now. Didn't even think of that before. Have never ordered from them before.

 

[Egon]

Cheer up folks; as you get older clothes last longer!

 

[Turbys_1700]

The lack of QC in clothing is due to inconsistent adherence to standards. I worked in the furniture industry for 12 years prior to teaching. Six of those were in the upholstery industry. My wife still works in it.

Sewers in upholstery must adhere to strict standards. Seam deviation, cutting standards, fabric variations in color, stretch, etc...all contribute to variations in quality.

I would assume that all cutting of denim is done on cnc fabric cutter's thus eliminating errors in cutting. The problem is from sewing errors and lack of QC in foreign manufacturing plants. Further compounding the issue is movement of production from one country/plant to another. I would guess lowest bidder wins the contract.

I've noticed the same issue with shirts. The same brand one time may be manufactured in China, the next time in Hondauras, etc. It's all about delivery of goods at the lowest possible price. That's global manufacturing in a nutshell. Successful companies deliver consistent products by adhering to quality standards.

 

[David Wayne]

I quit Levis years ago when they moved to Mexico, started wearing Wrangler. Stopped in a Rural King this spring had never been in one before and bought a pair of RK jeans for 9.99 so far they are holding up well and fit as good as Wrangler.

 

[California]

... same brand one time may be manufactured in China, the next time in Honduras, etc. It's all about delivery of goods at the lowest possible price. That's global manufacturing in a nutshell. Successful companies deliver consistent products by adhering to quality standards.

Harbor Freight is the worst common example. They change product # for seemingly identical items, probably because of switching suppliers. And worse yet sometimes they sell junk under the description of what was previously adequate. I noted over in the 'HF tools that don't suck' thread that I bought a combo disk/belt bench sander listed at 49 lbs on the website and on its carton, but with a 29 lb shipper's address label on it. It felt like only 29 lbs and I verified that on a bath scale. Other participants in that thread liked what must have been a previous version. The thing was junk, it couldn't be adjusted to perform as specified. I took it back. Caveat Emptor.

 

[topbuilder]

To OP, Yep same experience here. Levis all my days. Had to switch to Wrangler 936PWD which is a "slim" to get the same fit. They have been consistent. I'm anything but slim. Doesn't stop me from bringing it up every now and then...

 

[topbuilder]

"Oh, and my 'scent' is usually Eau-de Equine Plop."

I might a guessed that about you Wagtail. My name for the fragrance might not a been near as elegant!

 

[Paul Thornton]

Rswyan, be careful with the old Old Spice. I resurrected a bottle from when I was in the service (66-72) and found out it burned a bit.