I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced.

   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #21  
It's always bugged me about security stuff. I bet a circuit board I can buy from China (Free Shipping) for $2.00, my supplier would charge $50.00 and then I have to mark it up 40 points!

Anything Turf related is even more than Ag or construction stuff it seems. Also it seems it's crazy for ATVs.
 
   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #22  
that's all very true .I have learned that it pays to shop around for what you need .there certinaly times where I have found a part at half price of others
 
   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #23  
I have 2 examples from this past week. Needed new exhaust from the cat back on my wife’s Trailblazer. Monro quoted me $1100 incl a 10% discount. Bought Walker muffler, pipes, resonator, clamps and hangers on Amazon for $250 and installed it in under an hour using only jacks and ramps. Then I needed hood struts on a Hyundai Sonata. Dealer quoted $224. Bought 2 struts on Amazon for $20 and replaced in 5 minutes. They must think we are all wealthy idiots!
 
   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #24  
To the OP's example of a new factory radiator $ compared to a auto level recore $ is surly not comparing apples to apples. Did the OP attempt to find a NEW radiator and what was that price? Would the quality be comparable? Regardless what we are repairing, be it the house, car, tractor, we can normally save money by repairing vs replacing.
 
   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #25  
Even worse then tractors and cars is appliances!!! Hundred bucks an hour for the guy to show up, and then he has to come back after he figures out what part you need and charge another hundred bucks to install it, plus whatever he decided to charge for the part. I think this is why so many people just buy a new appliance when it stops working. My LG washer had a leak, so I figured out that one of the valves, or whatever it's called was cracked and needed replacing. I put in the part number, Sears came up first with the price being almost $50. I kept looking and found it for under $20 at dozens of other places. It was a quick five minute job to replace it. My parents Samsung dryer stopped working because the counter balance had cracked. It was under warrantee, it took the guy one trip to figure it out, and then two weeks later, to install the new one.
 
   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #26  
This is one of the reasons that drove me to buy my PowerTrac. No dealers. Factory direct. I work on it myself. I need a part, I call them, they ship it. Two days later I have the part. Small parts like bolts, filters, etc... I buy local. Unless I'm in a hurry and the local has to order and the wait will be a couple weeks, then I go back to the factory. I find it all a very agreeable relationship with the manufacturer.
 
   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #27  
If you go outside the dealerships, there is a precipitous drop in what things cost. I thought this was odd at first. I've even had a salesperson tell me what I wanted to buy was insanely priced. I don't understand what the dealerships are doing. They price things in insane ways for anything tractor related, like it is different than anything else. Its really the same materials, like a car. But for some reason they want to charge 3 or 4 times as much as one could find elsewhere. What is it in these dealerships, that think they can survive in a world that is now internet based and I can find things all over the US, at the same quality, for far less than what my local dealership is providing?
What is the nature of that dealership? Do they just think we are all, wealthy, small plot, idiots with too much money? I always go to the dealership first. And I am always disappointed by the numbers they give me. Then I find locals, not associated with the dealers, that will do the same work for less. Money back in to the local economy.

I think that the nature of dealerships is that they appeal to, and typically serve in majority, a specific demographic of customers: the people you're calling "wealthy small-plot idiots with too much money." I'm not a farmer and I don't use my tractor for farming; I'm a small business owner and I use my tractor as an offroad forklift (among other things). But I don't think that my position is unique and I'm sure that most farmers could relate to the same or similar position I'm about to explain.

I could shop around for better prices on parts, and for expensive parts I usually do, but for bolts, belts, fluids, etc., anything under a few hundred bucks, I utilize the dealership for most of that, because shopping isn't free. My billable hourly rate is $125, and that money pays for everything business-related: keeping the lights on, keeping the truck running, buying consumables for the business, paying my helpers, and among countless other things, buying parts for the tractor. That might sound like a lot of money to some people but I might work 60-80 hours in a week, and less than half of those hours are billable. Of those billable hours, the majority goes right back into the business to pay my helpers, etc. When you figure how many hours I work and how much money I actually get to take home, before taxes I make <$30/hr. I do everything I can to keep my billable:non-billable hours ratio as high as possible, because the higher that ratio is, the more I actually take home per hour.

Spending time driving around town looking for a better deal on a $350 hydraulic cylinder is not an efficient use of my time. Even browsing the internet for one is a fools errand for me. I would need to measure or consult the tech manual for specs; bore size, stroke, rod-end type, pin diameter, system pressure, etc. and then check several websites, sift through their products, and find one that's a match. Let's say I do a really good and fast job of that, and I find a suitable replacement in just under an hour. 55 minutes of searching cost me $115 and I find that cylinder for $230 with free shipping. I only save $5. Then I have to wait for it to be shipped, tractor sitting broken for days, causing me to have to pay my guys to move heavy stuff like ancient Egyptians, which takes extra time and money, and in the end I lose. It makes much more sense for me to pay a guy $8/hr to drive to the dealership with a broken cylinder and come back with a new one that I know will work, and have it fixed the same day. Believe it or not, I actually save money that way.

Same goes for service and dealer repairs sometimes. If the job exceeds my helper's skills to complete, and the dealer's hourly rate is less than mine, why would I waste my time? In some cases I may actually lose a bit of money taking my tractor to the dealer for service, but if to have done the work in-house would have caused me late delivery on a customer's project, well that's lost money down the road in decreased business from that customer or losing that customer entirely.

Sometimes it's not even about money. I'm incredibly busy and I have a family which requires my time as well. If fixing the tractor is going to take a whole sunday off-the-clock, I would not be overly reluctant to drop it off at the dealer on a friday and not think about it again until monday, even knowing that it's not monetarily justifiable. I'm essentially paying to spend time with my family. That's just how it works sometimes.

If you're a retiree or a hobbyist or for any other number of reasons your time isn't worth money, then by all means spend it looking for better deals. More power to you, and I know you'll succeed, because dealers never have the best price on anything. But for everyone else, the dealership represents a quick, sure-fire solution for any problem, at a premium, which in the long run is probably cheaper.

P.S. This post cost me about $60 to type. You're welcome.
Engaging conversations online is one of my vices and it's hard to reconcile the time I waste on the internet, so I don't try. If I didn't get on here and stimulate my mind, I would lose it. So it's time well spent IMO. Plus it's sunday, so hush.
 
   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #28  
Want to see crazy prices from dealers - check out the aviation industry. A $2 tractor bolt is now $20..... Oh and the nut is another $8..

I'm sure there is an aviation tax but don't all these parts have to be made to exacting standards? You don't just go grab a bolt and nut off the shelf and put it in an aircraft do you?
 
   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #29  
P.S. This post cost me about $60 to type. You're welcome.

Thank you!

This post made me wish there was a counter on TBN like the national debt clock showing how many dollars worth of time TBN members have spent on the site this year. Or maybe we're better off not knowing...
 
   / I'm sure I'm not the first person to say Dealerships are over priced. #30  
Needed a trans dipstick tube ordered it at the dealer cause I could get it next day. Went to get it and it was an oil dipstick tube, reordered picked up next day got ready to put it on, wrong one. Took it back showed him the correct one on a Ford dealers online site. Then I showed him their price. With shipping it was half what I had paid him. Told him not to bother reordering it.

Local Napa store no longer has prices on the merchandise. They price it depending on who ya are. No thanks.
 

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