Imported to Canada

[canoetrpr]

tractor_rider:

I am interested to know if you are affiliated with Kubota Canada in any way? How do you know that they have a 10 month inventory for example? Do you know why they do?

 

[canoetrpr]

I've not been able to get a quote from a USA Kubota dealer yet as it seems Kubota USA is enforcing the rule about not selling tractors out of country.

Best I can tell, anyone here that has imported a new Kubota from the USA has picked it up himself. Are there any exceptions to this?

I got a quote from a JD dealer, including shipping and warranty is honoured up here.

Pretty silly situation if you ask me.

 

[Northland]

I've not been able to get a quote from a USA Kubota dealer yet as it seems Kubota USA is enforcing the rule about not selling tractors out of country.

Best I can tell, anyone here that has imported a new Kubota from the USA has picked it up himself. Are there any exceptions to this?

I got a quote from a JD dealer, including shipping and warranty is honoured up here.

Pretty silly situation if you ask me.

I picked up my tractor myself but RDG (who started this thread) and others have arranged shipping either themselves or in conjunction with the dealer.

You might try Carver Equipment Introduction

 

[canoetrpr]

RDG bought a used machine. He said one of the reasons he said he did was because dealers in the USA he spoke to said they could not sell to him since he was Canadian.

What I need is family in the USA to buy and sell me a (lightly) used GL ;-). Unfortunately the only family I have in the USA is in Utah :-(

 

[Luremaker]

Please do not bash the local dealers on pricing, Kubota Canada prints suggested retail pricing and the dealer has to abide by these, these prices have very marginal room to move.

Kubota Canada must move with the times or they will simply not sell any tractors. The grey marketers are moving in like sharks with some exceptional deals. Canadian dealers must fight for lower prices if they want to stay in business. Believe me Kubota can take their little price book and tell every dealer the new price as of Nov xx/07 is now "List minus 30%". I am afraid business is business and it is out of their control.

... as for the difference on the canadian and us dollar all prices are based on US dollar at certain times in the year, kubota canada always has over 10 months supply on hand, would you sell for less than what you pay,...

Adjustments have to be made when the competition changes and right now the USA dealers are Kubota Canada's biggest competition. Take a "small" loss now or lose the shop later.

...would you sell for less than what you pay,...

Sometimes we have no choice. Remember this is business!

...as a canadian citizen we should be used to higher prices because of our low population, just remember if you don't support the local economy there will be no local economy. I hope all dealers refuse warranty on imported product because the is no financial benfit to doing warranty.

Just because my father paid more does not mean I want to pay more. If I can save $10,000 on a new tractor that means I now have $11,400 (incl PST & GST) to spend locally which is going to boost the local economy a lot more than by having Kubota Canada sending my $10,000 to Japan. Think of how many new implements I can purchase with $11,400.

Sorry Tractor_Rider I just do not buy what you are saying. If I was shopping for a new tractor today I would take a holiday with the wife in the USA and purchase one there.

 

[canoetrpr]

Adjustments have to be made when the competition changes and right now the USA dealers are Kubota Canada's biggest competition. Take a "small" loss now or lose the shop later.

As it turns out, instead of lowering prices, non tariff barriers are being raised for Canadians trying to shop in the USA. This includes lack of warranty support since Kubota USA and Kubota Canada are separate companies and pressure that the Kubota dealers in the USA are getting to not sell to Canadians.

I find this a naive way react to market conditions but almost all manufacturers do the same type of thing. The Canadian wing of most of the auto companies have reacted the same way.

The end result is silly. I'm now considering selling my almost new L3400HST and purchasing a JD 3520 from the USA as there are no such no tariff barriers with JD, instead of a Grand L3540. If I do this, another Canadian who woud have probably bought a NEW L3400HST from Kubota Canada (thus positively impacting their bottom line), will get to by my used machine. I will end up with a green JD instead of an orange Grand L which Kubota dealers will not get to make service revenue from over the long term. Kubota Canada will have lost two potential sales in the same month.

Maybe they've thought this all through but it makes little sense to me.

 

[canoetrpr]

I think the only way Kubota can solve this issue is to do away with "kubota Canada" and "Kubota USA" and become "kubota North America".

I've wondered what the point of Kubota Canada was anyway? JD does not have a JD Canada. AFAIK they only have a JD North America. Same deal with Kioti. The dealers here purchase from Kioti USA.

There is a bunch of additional stupidity that goes along with having a separate Canadian arm of Kubota - like they refuse to acknowledge that service bullietens issued by Kubota USA to dealers affect tractors sold by Kubota Canada's dealers. Duh! - like they use different parts to build the same tractor for the Canadian market.

My experience dealing with someone from Kubota Canada was absolutely terrible. See this thread. They acted like a mom and pop shop rather than a major corporation. "Big Brother" was the regional service manager who monitors TBN and did not hesitate to use his assumptions based on my locale and the context my post about which dealer I was talking about and which competitor of theirs I decided to apporach instead - and relayed all this crap to the selling dealer leading them to believe that I was "slandering them on the internet". This resulted in a threating phone call from said dealer to me threatening me with legal action...... all of this for me having an opinion about the selling dealer based on mistakes they made even though I never named them on here.

Oddly enough my opinon of this dealer was that they lacked attention to detail... Imagine that!.. the guy confirms this by picking up the phone and threating me without even checking what I had said about him. I asked him to send me any post where I had "slandered" him or his business as he accused me of. I've never heard from him after that. Not an apology or an acknowledgment of error of judgement (or lack of attention to detail!)

I never got around to updating the thread. I wrote a letter of complaint to the customer service contact I was given at Kubota Canada about this person (who my delaer refused to identify) which was..... wait.... intercepted by Big Brother who wrote me a registered letter re-iterating the Economy Tractor rhetoric and so on and the assertion that I had been a bad boy "spreading" my issues with my purchasing dealer "all over the internet" (I have never even used the dealers name to this date).

I think the products are great. The Japanese have raised the bar on quality in both cars and tractors. However the Canadian satellite sounds like it is stuck many years in the past.

 

[Northland]

Both RDG and Canoetrpr make excellent points about internet shopping/price comparing and the lack of any reason for Kubota Canada to continue to exist. I don't even look at Kubota Canada's web site as it is badly out-of-date and looks like something from the 90's.

It's our money and we should be free to spend it where we want. I always try and buy locally but if the price is too high or the selection limited I will source things elsewhere.

I recently purchased a new Browning Upland Special 20 gauge shotgun for grouse hunting. I waited for a month for my local dealer to locate one and actually call me back. When nothing happened I got on the internet and phone and called all over Canada (Canadians can't buy firearms in the US) until I found one in London Ontario.

 

[canoetrpr]

I just visited the Canada site and found that they have discussion boards on there. Anyone here a member of them?

 

[tractor_rider]

I' m glad to see the USA dealers are sticking to the kubota residency rule it would be a shame to see everybody in canada having going to the USA to get there machines and parts after all the canadian dealers go belly up or just give up trying as they cannot compete.