Improving a Pellet Stove

   / Improving a Pellet Stove #31  
Went and bought a couple pallets of Michigan Hardwood pellets yesterday t Tractor supply. $214.00 per pallet all in. Got 'em home and unloaded them in the barn with my forklift. Now to get my free corn in the grain tank and I'll be 'all set' for the winter.

Life is good.
 
   / Improving a Pellet Stove #32  
I'm going to say right up front, I don't have experience with any pellet stove.

I only want to add a word of caution. A co-worker of mine started experimenting adding corn to his pellet burner to gain cost efficient heat. He used some internet guidance to give some things a try. Ended up almost burning his house down and ruining a several thousand dollar heater.

Just be careful, while I've never met any one of you, I'd really hate to see a similar circumstance or worse posted here.:)

There are 'pellet' only appliances and then there are 'biomass' appliances. A pellet stove is built for combusting wood pellets only. It doe not have the feed system, nor the exhaust system capable of handling the added heat of burning coen or a mixture of them. Biomass appliances do.

They are usually controlled by an integrate circuit tat regulates the draft for combustion, controls the feed rate, monitors the firebox temperature to prevent over firing and have a 'burn pot' specifically designed to burn pellets or corn or a combination of both and in reality, don't cost much more than a pellet only appliance.

The one I have (had it for 10 years), basically operates itself. You supply the fuel (corn or pellets or a combination of both) and it burns them but constantly monitors itself for issues. You clean out the burn pot every couple days and it rewards you with excellent thermal efficiency (around 87%) and a nice warm heat as well as a nice viewable fire (through the heat resistant glass door.
 
   / Improving a Pellet Stove #33  
If I had a woodlot, I'd use wood myself. I don't. With propane at what it is, compared to corn, it's a no go anyway. Wood pellets on the other hand at 200-225 a ton are viable against propane but still only for supplemental heat in this house. I like having a backup heat source.

Propane prices vary considerably by region, here in New England it's a pricey way to heat and you're more or less locked in to one provider...most gas companies will not fill a tank they don't own.
As far as pellets go, maybe I'm missing something but they seem to be a solution in search of a problem. They're a commodity, and as such are subject to price increases, shortages, etc. At least with firewood you can almost always scrounge something (even if it's not very good quality) if you live in the country. I don't see what you gain buy using pellets vs some other form of heat.

You just asked how long, and prefaced the question with "cut and split". How long did it take to grow those trees ? How long did it take for them to die? And if you feel gathering "dead wood" is easy, you may be mistaken.

I used to get a permit to get firewood from national forest land...the permit was cheap, somewhere in the neighborhood of $25, and no one really cared how much you took. It had to be dead & down. I'd just go to an area that had been recently logged and get the treetops, branches, etc. Lotta work huffing it out of the woods, but a few weekends worth of work I'd get enough for a couple years. As I've gotten older that's less and less appealing, as you noted it's a lot of work!

corn is big business, home heating fire wood is not. 'Cottage industry.

The load of logs I'm cutting on cost $800. Black birch (pretty fair heat content) It will be gone the end of next winter. Then I'll get another load. I can't bring it in for that much $.

Corn may be big business, but before this thread I'd never heard of using it for heat. Is this something new? Is it just feed corn or something else?

Dunno what part of Vt. you're in, but firewood dealers abound here in northern N.H., though if by "cottage industry" you mean mom & pop + a couple employees, yeah...they're all fairly small businesses.

I wish I could find log length loads for $800. Going rate here is in the $1100 range, this is for a 9-10 cord load. Mostly maple, some beech, ash or yellow birch. Still a bargain compared to cut & split.
 
   / Improving a Pellet Stove #34  
As far as pellets go, maybe I'm missing something but they seem to be a solution in search of a problem. They're a commodity, and as such are subject to price increases, shortages, etc. At least with firewood you can almost always scrounge something (even if it's not very good quality) if you live in the country. I don't see what you gain buy using pellets vs some other form of heat.

Convenience. Lots easier to load pellets for some people than logs.
 
   / Improving a Pellet Stove #35  
   / Improving a Pellet Stove #36  
Even easier and cheaper to burn natural gas.

If you have it. Living where we live in the boonies, NG don't exist so it's alternative fuels. We are lucky to have fairly reliable electricity. Why we have a 25KW diesel powered standby genset.
 
   / Improving a Pellet Stove #37  
Propane prices vary considerably by region, here in New England it's a pricey way to heat and you're more or less locked in to one provider...most gas companies will not fill a tank they don't own.
As far as pellets go, maybe I'm missing something but they seem to be a solution in search of a problem. They're a commodity, and as such are subject to price increases, shortages, etc. At least with firewood you can almost always scrounge something (even if it's not very good quality) if you live in the country. I don't see what you gain buy using pellets vs some other form of heat.



I used to get a permit to get firewood from national forest land...the permit was cheap, somewhere in the neighborhood of $25, and no one really cared how much you took. It had to be dead & down. I'd just go to an area that had been recently logged and get the treetops, branches, etc. Lotta work huffing it out of the woods, but a few weekends worth of work I'd get enough for a couple years. As I've gotten older that's less and less appealing, as you noted it's a lot of work!



Corn may be big business, but before this thread I'd never heard of using it for heat. Is this something new? Is it just feed corn or something else?

Dunno what part of Vt. you're in, but firewood dealers abound here in northern N.H., though if by "cottage industry" you mean mom & pop + a couple employees, yeah...they're all fairly small businesses.

I wish I could find log length loads for $800. Going rate here is in the $1100 range, this is for a 9-10 cord load. Mostly maple, some beech, ash or yellow birch. Still a bargain compared to cut & split.

Dedicated corn burning appliances have been around at least 50 years. I think 'Snowflame' was the first followed by Amazing Blaze.
 
   / Improving a Pellet Stove #38  
I used a pellet stove one winter in my house. The constant noise, auger jamming, my raised electric bill and the fact that a pellet stove rated for 2,000sqft could hardly keep my 1,300sqft house warm was enough. Went right back to wood. Silent, dosnt jam, no electricity and always works.

Pellet stoves have there place. Small rooms, city lots, elderly people or people who dont want to deal with wood are perfect. You still pay for the convience of bagged fuel and at some point isnt it just work it to burn liquid fuel. Even with my wood stove and "free" firewood i still burn oil in the early and late season.
 
   / Improving a Pellet Stove #39  
Dedicated corn burning appliances have been around at least 50 years. I think 'Snowflame' was the first followed by Amazing Blaze.

Maybe it's a midwestern thing. Never heard of anyone doing it around here.

I used a pellet stove one winter in my house. The constant noise, auger jamming, my raised electric bill and the fact that a pellet stove rated for 2,000sqft could hardly keep my 1,300sqft house warm was enough. Went right back to wood. Silent, dosnt jam, no electricity and always works.

Pellet stoves have there place. Small rooms, city lots, elderly people or people who dont want to deal with wood are perfect. You still pay for the convience of bagged fuel and at some point isnt it just work it to burn liquid fuel. Even with my wood stove and "free" firewood i still burn oil in the early and late season.

My sister tried pellets, gave up on it after a couple years for the reasons you mentioned.

Yeah, I don't light up the woodstove until we get consistently cold evenings (mid 20s or so), even then it's just in the evening. Don't run it full time until close to Thanksgiving. We do run the oil furnace sometimes first thing in the morning to take the chill off in early fall.
 
   / Improving a Pellet Stove #40  
I have a very good friend who lived in Houlton, Maine (moved south because of the huge snowfall) that heated his home with a pellet stove as primary heat. A Harman btw. I understand that in Maine, you can have bulk pellets delivered to your door. I suspec there are a lot of pellet and bio fuel appliances out your way as well.

Swing over to Hearth.com Forums Home and take a look.
 

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