Inching control: anyone have it?

[chim]

I bought a quick hitch several years ago and still haven't installed it because some of my implements would need mods to fit. I've come to appreciate a simple tool that makes a big difference when connecting 3 point implements- a San Angelo bar. It has a point on the one end that is easy to stick in the ground and then use the bar to coax the implement into alignment.

I had some really tough digging to do about 5 years ago and my regular digging iron wasn't penetrating the hard packed clay. Someone wrote praises about their San Angelo bar, so I bought one. The point mentioned earlier is a really wicked tool for hard ground, and the design of the chisel end works better than my other digging iron. The chisel end is very short compared with the regular digging iron and the angle is a little different. Being so short, I believe the efficiency comes from not having friction between the dirt and the long "cheeks".

I had some extra orange paint and gave it a few good coats to make it more noticeable. An unintended benefit was that it stays cool to the touch on the sunniest days. When it was black, you'd best have gloves to pick it up after a short time in the sun.

 

[LouNY]

That JD inching control sounds interesting,
as far as rear fender controls many tractors have 3 point controls and some have pto control on the rear fenders,
sometimes on both sides usually the left side.

 

[strantor]

I wonder if my Kubota would do that. Mowing fields today. Will put it at idle, and try pressing on the reverse treadle. Standing besides the tractor for sure. Funny, I thought those seat presence switches would prevail but clearly they don't.

I see the new Kubota M4 has lift arm controls optional in the rear. If one could do what we are discussing with that,
now there's an alternative tractor.

My LS also has the rear 3pt controls, standard. As well as rear remotes, standard. FEL is standard too.

 

[daugen]

If I didn't have other major dealers nearby, I'd go check out LS. Still might, I think they are headquartered here...

I remembered to try out my Grand L Kubota to see if it would go backwards while I stood outside the cab and gently pushed
down on the reverse treadle. Interestingly, it did not stall immediately. Instead, auto throttle electronics kicked in, started to raise the rpm,
and then it died. After moving not a hair. No joy, no inching.

Kubota now has an M4 coming out, with rear 3pt controls optional, and their extendable links.
No inching. Maybe Japanese toes are extra tender...

In my perfect world, I'd like a lever to pull to connect hydraulics, a lever to pull to connect the pto, just like the levers on Kubota's SSQA adapter.
Click in, click out.

I think only JD's smaller models, like a two or three series has some contraption where your pto connector can be driven into. Reminds me of in flight fueling.

Who could live without a crow bar? I couldn't, not with getting a LP disc harrow connected. That thing so does not move anywhere...
Big heavy bar, maybe 8 feet long. Grew up with using one in PA digging up granite boulders and shale, miserable ground to dig in and we sure didn't own a phd. So that big bar is an old friend. But seriously inconvenient and not so easy on the body.

 

[chim]

..................................In my perfect world, I'd like a lever to pull to connect hydraulics, a lever to pull to connect the pto, just like the levers on Kubota's SSQA adapter.
Click in, click out....................................

In my perfect world:

Kubota Auto Hitch with snowblower & blade - YouTube

 

[rngrrymd]

In my perfect world:

Kubota Auto Hitch with snowblower & blade - YouTube

Powerball Jackpot - currently $253 Million
Megamillions Jackpot - currently $405 Million

That Auto Hitch is sweet but $8,717 list price from Kubota.

 

[daugen]

what a marvelous contraption.
reminds me of the seriously cool garden tractor trash bins one used to be able to get, I think from JD ?,
that had hydraulic arms and lifted the rear bags out, dumped them, and returned to the mower and you never had to get out of your seat.

Why don't they have them any more? I can guess....all those lift arms and hydraulic cylinders, have to believe they are going to get bent by not so careful operation, and then warranty claims and unhappiness. Simply too complicated.
Trick is to make it easy but also durable as can be. Without costing 8 grand...(that might include the cost of the whole front pto drivetrain also?)
When I priced my L it was close to 8 grand to put a blower on it 6 years ago.

The Europeans have been doing front pto implements for a long time. I think we are just catching up to them,
but checking all the blocks will make for a very expensive tractor.
I hope Kubota figured it out here.
Maybe they can migrate that quick connect concept to other implements.

JD dealer said they had never seen a unit come in with inching control.
I really wonder if it is truly available.

 

[oosik]

I can definitely sympathize with daugen and his condition. First off - hooking up most any 3-point implement is not all that easy. Then my M6040 is hydraulic shuttle. Meaning - how good is your left foot on the clutch. When I had the smaller tractor with all the class 1 implements - I could usually horse them that final inch or so - into position to connect. Now that all my implements are class 2 - I can not do than any longer.

My M6040 has extendable lower link ends - a great help. And right now I'm looking to get an adjustable spud wrench - its for that final 1/4 inch.

So DAUGEN - do not feel that you are alone here. My poor old hands and aching body completely understand your situation.

BTW - I just wonder if those rear fender controls are an accident looking for a place to happen. I can just see feet being run over and much worse. Maybe I'm just too old school and worry too much.

 

[daugen]

BTW - I just wonder if those rear fender controls are an accident looking for a place to happen. I can just see feet being run over and much worse. Maybe I'm just too old school and worry too much.

what you are is careful. And just like using an old fashioned buzz saw that are still sold today, there's certain built in risk you have to
agree to accept. Which folks do until they get hurt and then of course one of those lawyers on tv get called. I was an insurance underwriter for more than 20 years and it's remarkable how many ways people can hurt themselves by not being careful. I never adjusted liability claims, only property, but I read all the claims. The insurance industry press always reports the wacky stuff, makes for great reading in a boring topic.

So, in this what they call "litigious" environment, here comes Deere with this very useful improvement and you bet I think it's risky too.
But I want it, and I think they know it....classic marketing, but it has to get by legal. And someone signed off, or that marketing piece would not have been put out, the pdf I posted, though I wonder if they put it out there to get reaction.

Ok, let's make this simple. I want rear mounted controls to move the tractor exceptionally slowly. I will endure a necessary beeper during
all operation. I will accept the responsibility for safe operation, just like I do currently dangerous spinning pto shafts.
Hear that JD?
Maybe they should have a remote with either a ten foot cord or wireless if the issue is not running over your own toe.
And how do you prevent the entire mechanism from getting stuck on? Stuck off is a lot better...

 

[Agvg]

It will probably move so slow that you must really want to be hurt, I can't understand how US has placed them selves in to this mess of lawyers and ridiculously claims, here I live you can only get compensated for document losses, and are you complete idiot then it's your problem.