Traction Incredible - No damage resulting from putting gas into my Kioti Diesel Engine

[Diggin It]

OK, after all the tongue lashings are done, can somebody answer the OP's question?

can I expect any long term problems with the tractor in the future?

 

[seville009]

I accidentally put gas in my tractor years ago. Drained it, changed the filter, and ran great. Never had subsequent issues. Your tractor will be fine



I also started labeling my fuel containers in heavy black marker after that so that there would be no guessing as to what is actually in them

 

[fried1765]

I致e always put whatever fuel I want in whatever can I have. Apparently some people can稚 see and smell the difference in gas and diesel.

Of course you CAN.....
You COULD even use milk cans, or old motor oil jugs, etc. but it is not a good idea.
Only a matter of time, before some family member, or friend, makes the mistake!

 

[shooterdon]

I am one of those stupid people that puts gas only in red jugs. I have two yellow ones for diesel in case my little diesel fuel station runs out before I get it filled.

I use a Sharpie to mark my 50:1 mix containers...one in the pole barn...one in the garage.

Good to hear there was no damage to your tractor but a change in how you store fuel would be prudent.

 

[fidowanttobe]

I have a diesel generator that starts on gasoline and then switches over to diesel. IH designed the W-9 engine that way. The gasoline is carbed into the engine under compression release then flipped to diesel through injectors under higher compression. Sure pings and rattles during the switch over though.
I understand why gasoline in very high compression would be detrimental, but why would it hurt the injectors? Just curious.

 

[SSdoxie]

I have a diesel generator that starts on gasoline and then switches over to diesel. IH designed the W-9 engine that way. The gasoline is carbed into the engine under compression release then flipped to diesel through injectors under higher compression. Sure pings and rattles during the switch over though.
I understand why gasoline in very high compression would be detrimental, but why would it hurt the injectors? Just curious.

Potential damage to injectors and pump from gasoline would be lack of lubrication. Diesel fuel leaves an oily film which lubricates the injection system, where gasoline will wash the flim exposing risk of metal to metal galling.

 

[mrmikey]

We had a yard crane here at work that's constantly getting gas instead of diesel put in the tank at least once every two months. It still starts fine, runs fine, no problems at all, not saying I'd want to do it on one of my own ..............Mike

 

[grsthegreat]

my wife accidentally topped off the dodge diesel with unleaded gas about 4 years ago. truck drove out of the gas station and promptly died. Truck was towed to Dodge where they determined what happened. $600 later after tank was dropped and drained and cleaned, truck was refulled and has run fine ever since. The dodge mechanic wasnt worried. said hes seen it before

 

[LouNY]

If the original posters tractor is a full tier 4 with common rail injection he got of very lucky.
A mechanical pump could handle a bit of gas for a short time, the electronic common rail much less for much less time.
Gas does not have the lubricity for the injector pumps mixing with the existing diesel must have kept the pump lubricated enough to not seize and break.

As far as the older diesels that started on gas and then switched to diesel they most certainly would ping and rattle when that lever got shoved back down again.
I can still remember sitting on a TD-6 with a clorox bottle with gas in it having to pull the air filter top off pouring a trickle of gas in the breather to get her started because the carb was shot, when it was cold out a slug of gas and your hand over the air inlet to act as a choke while cranking her over, when it fired getting the bottle up to feed it and keep it running for a minute or 2 so it would stay running when you switched it over. To the "the good old days" in many ways good riddance but some of the completely accepted practices that would have people running for cover now days.

 

[Threepoint]

Mechanical-injection Diesels run OK on 20% gasoline and some manufacturers recommend this as a winter fix when only summer Diesel is available. On the other hand, these engines won't run on 100% gasoline, at least not at idle; I think the viscosity is too low for the injection system. But there is a danger zone in the middle where the engine will run too hot and damage the engine, maybe destroy the pre-chamber, injector, and eventfully the pistons and valves.

I didn't know that about the older diesels! I'm assuming it's quite different for electronic common-rail direct injection engines like that in the OP's CK4010, but it sounds like he dodged a bullet this time!

Remamj1, BTW, welcome to the forum!

All the 5-gal yellow fuel cans I've seen in recent years are labeled Diesel, and the red ones Gasoline. But perhaps there are outliers. While I haven't researched the Federal regulations myself, the fuel stations around here will not allow you to pump fuel (either diesel or gas) into any container that's not D.O.T.-approved. That might also be a requirement of their respective insurance carriers. I don't know if it matters to the attendants, though, whether the can is yellow or red, so long as it's approved by U.S. D.O.T.

Here's an interesting link on consumer storage and transport of fuel. https://legalbeagle.com/5948454-diesel-fuel-container-regulations.html