Input on Clearing for a Forest Road

   / Input on Clearing for a Forest Road
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Drivadesl,

In the area where it's on a hillside, I dug a trench on the high side of the road with a gentle slope into the culvert. In this area I used smooth large road base stones instead of the typical base. It was recommended to me so that any excess water can pass through the stones since they have small cavities within the base to allow the water to pass. I needed about 24" of base in this area. Didn't use any geo textile fabric. Topped it off with 3/4 minus. It has held up very well. No issues with water, erosion or sinking. The rest of the road was built using your common road base and 3/4 minus on top. It's not totally finished as this road will be used by all the larger trucks to get materials to my building site. Once I get my pole barn built ( this spring), and the home built, I will finish it off with fines and a final grading.

The area that was on the hillside took about 2 days to do. It's about 100' long. I removed a lot of topsoil to get down to the clay where the road would have a decent base to build on. It was all slop as you can see in the photos. The rest of the road was pretty straight forward and took about 10 days to complete.

This is where it leads to. It was all wooded. Cleared, graded, seeded and covered in hay. Came out pretty good for an amateur.



Good luck!



Woody, that road looks mint, and a nice finish to it. Curious where you got your stone from, I assume it was delivered. Do you know how much you ended up needing? Also, never heard the term 3/4" minus,, is this just the typical 3/4" grey stone that is used everywhere?

Sorry for the questions, but looking forward to getting started on this, and with today being near zero here, not doing much else but puttering in the basement.
 
   / Input on Clearing for a Forest Road #12  
Woody, that road looks mint, and a nice finish to it. Curious where you got your stone from, I assume it was delivered. Do you know how much you ended up needing? Also, never heard the term 3/4" minus,, is this just the typical 3/4" grey stone that is used everywhere? Sorry for the questions, but looking forward to getting started on this, and with today being near zero here, not doing much else but puttering in the basement.

Thanks. It's also called crusher run. I am lucky with the stone. The quarry is less than a mile from my place. It's called Sewards stone and gravel. They have two locations, one in Oneonta and one in Davenport. I would have to look up in my records how many truck loads I had delivered. If I can locate them I will post it.
 
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The "minus" means "this size, and all the sizes below it." So 1/2" minus is 1/2" stone with everything smaller down to sand and dust. 3/4" minus has 3/4, 1/2, etc. If you ordered straight 3/4" stone, you'd get just that without all the smaller sizes. For some uses, the fines are used to help lock in the larger stone, like in concrete and driveways. For other uses you don't want them so you can keep the water channels open (rip-rap, drain layers in roads or septic, etc.) or if you are tightly controlling your proportions of a mix.

Other terms we see in our area are "pit run" (nothing run through the crusher/grader, so it can include both broken and rounded stone, often softball size and larger); "crusher run" where you get all the sizes straight out of the crusher without grading, starting at whatever the largest size through the crusher is, even up to 5 or 6" sometimes; and "crusher fines", which are coarse sand-size bits of broken rock out of the crusher, not rounded like beach or glacial sand.

Different pits will give you different products, where I grew up the pit was glacial till, so have a lot of rounded rocks and boulders, all mixed of various types of granite, sandstone, and others. Where I live now the pit is a granite hill where they blast off a "face" and run it through the crusher, so it is all granite unless you specifically ask for river stone which they truck in. Other places in the country your local pit may be limestone or sandstone or something else. In NY I would expect a lot of granite like here...?

Odd tidbit of information: Don't count on crusher fines keeping the weeds down unless it is in a heavy vehicle traffic area to stay tightly packed. Breaking up the stone exposes a lot of nutrients that plants and weeds seem to crave, as well as holding water between the jagged surfaces.
 

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