Installing a 12” strike plate for security

[Sid Post]

Forget the gun advice. Sounds good but look what happens when the cops do their job with a gun. They are indited. Besides, what would you do with the body? A big dog that barks is safer and better than a manslaughter charge. A neighbor has a picture by his door that says " Property protected by guard dog" and a recording that sounds like a dog barking that turns on automatically like a light sensor. Avoid the lawsuit.

Sorry to hear you live in a Socialist state. If someone breaks my door down to get at me, they have a choice in whether they live to see the police or not.

Whether they die to my gun or my dog or live to see another sunrise is for them to decide if they present a lethal threat to my survival or that of those I care for.

You can be sued civilly for any reason someone wants but, a criminal conviction takes a good prosecutor to start and a jury of peers to agree with them. I prefer to live to face a jury if push comes to shove. If you will leave me alone, I will do the same. I am not going to live in fear of a possible prosecutor needing to grab headlines during a re-election campaign and let me die due to violent crime from a repeat offender for fear of possible litigation in the future.

If you want to surrender to crime, that's your choice.

 

[Sid Post]

a malinois dog is all you need.

Belgian Malinois are awesome dogs if you have the energy level to take care of one. These dogs are way too active to be happy and a good fit for an owner who isn't very active with them.

Even a German Shepherd from good bloodlines (not a backyard breeder), needs a lot of daily exercise to be happy and content.

For anyone looking for a dog for personal protection, or one in general, please use the "Breed Selector" formerly on Purina's website and now on Animal Planet before you buy a dog that won't work for your family.

 

[Sid Post]

Yes. #4 is my choice for 'yotes. That would also work well for a home defense load.

Hornady "Dead Coyote" for me. Hard shot and plenty of power to get the job done.

 

[Sid Post]

I keep seeing shotgun shotgun shotgun. I would say that may be a good answer for some, but for many women not so good.

You might have 4 -5 rounds and significant recoil. before reloading.

Get Americas Rifle, an AR15 in 5.56 or .223. A proven stopper since 1966. The collapsible stock can be kept short for maneuverability. 30 rounds in the mag. Double tap each perp.

Women are fully capable of running a 1911 or pump shotgun IF THEY WANT TOO!

Regarding rifles, over-penetration is a real concern in urban areas. If you live on ~40-acres out in the country, a good semi-auto rifle is worth its weight in GOLD IMHO!

In my case, the AR-15 is for dogs killing livestock. My beside has a 12-Gauge and an AR-10.

 

[Sid Post]

With completely through the house and over to the neighbors. A rifle is for follow ups and longer ranges which aren't going to happen in a house.

And, it is hard to argue self-defense at ~200 yards or more!

 

[LouNY]

And, it is hard to argue self-defense at ~200 yards or more!

Push comes to shove if it's necessary to reach out and say hello, the situation has gone to he!! and self defense will be a mote point.

 

[ning]

Besides, what would you do with the body?

Don't people keep pigs any more?

 

[kenhar]

Sorry to hear you live in a Socialist state. If someone breaks my door down to get at me, they have a choice in whether they live to see the police or not.

Whether they die to my gun or my dog or live to see another sunrise is for them to decide if they present a lethal threat to my survival or that of those I care for.

You can be sued civilly for any reason someone wants but, a criminal conviction takes a good prosecutor to start and a jury of peers to agree with them. I prefer to live to face a jury if push comes to shove. If you will leave me alone, I will do the same. I am not going to live in fear of a possible prosecutor needing to grab headlines during a re-election campaign and let me die due to violent crime from a repeat offender for fear of possible litigation in the future.

If you want to surrender to crime, that's your choice.

To set this issue straight. The issue was a shop being broken into not a residence. In a residence, in my state you have the right to protect yourself or family by whatever means you deem necessary. Dead men don't testify. Shoot somebody breaking into a shop or garage, the dead guy better have a gun with his fingerprints on it or the shooter is in some deep s--t. Has happened here and probably in Texas and Oklahoma as well.

 

[Sid Post]

To set this issue straight. The issue was a shop being broken into not a residence. In a residence, in my state you have the right to protect yourself or family by whatever means you deem necessary. Dead men don't testify. Shoot somebody breaking into a shop or garage, the dead guy better have a gun with his fingerprints on it or the shooter is in some deep s--t. Has happened here and probably in Texas and Oklahoma as well.

Commercial properties are a totally different situation from being a homeowner who has their door kicked in by some deranged person.

In terms of lethal force, Texas Concealed Carry passage was fueled by several incidents. One being a pickup driven into a Luby's Cafeteria where the driver jumped out and started shooting women including I believe his Ex. Details are a bit fuzzy as that was a very long time ago.

Several patrons that lost family members during their lunch commented that they had to leave their firearms in the car in the parking lot and were at the mercy of this deranged man.

I sincerely hope that if I am shopping or eating at a restaurant and some nut job starts killing people, a half dozen or so Grandmas and Grandpas pull pistols and return fire. I further hope some honorably discharged veterans are also armed and able to defend everyone else from a nut job as well. In terms of myself, I don't want to have to sit idly by while some nut job executes people even if it is in a space that is other than my own home, if I am armed, I HAVE A CHOICE.

Obviously, in public I would hope law enforcement would respond and come to everyone's rescue but that is problematic today for a number of unrelated or loosely related reasons. At my rural homestead, I am on my own effectively since law enforcement is so far away and is stretched so thin.

 

[BigBlue1]

Interesting that the OP of this thread was 'last seen' on the forum on the day he posted it. Hope the situation didn't go pear shaped.