Internet Scammers

   / Internet Scammers #21  
Ok, so the scam here was to get the property. Forged check, get the car, disappear with the car. Maybe move it out of the country, maybe chop it for parts, maybe get the title from a junked car and change the Vehicle ID number plates (although you end up with a salvaged title there). Once again, people selling something are trusting that the buyer is who they say they are. They probably don't even check ID once an official looking cashiers check is presented. Then they end up with, surprise-surprise, a bogus check and no way to identify the people who took the car. Furthermore, it may be a week before the bank tells them the check is bogus. If it is drawn on a distant bank, you have no way to go to the bank and verify that it is valid. A week is a long time to hide the vehicle. If the scamers are really good, they have a license plate for the same make and model of car that they immediately put on the vehicle so that if stopped, they have legitimate papers except that the VIN number on the registration doesn't match the registration.
 
   / Internet Scammers #22  
As a matter of fact the woman had taken the check to the bank and asked them if it was good and the bank had said it was.
It seems to me that the bank bears some of the responsibility. But we all know that wont happen..
Ralph
 
   / Internet Scammers #23  
Here is the latest scam I received from someone on TBN /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
You have a new message fromMr.Frank Brown for the following Classified
posted by you
http://classifieds.tractorbynet.com/default.asp?action=addetail&adid=16xx

Email of Mr.Frank Brown : f_brown@libero.it
Message from Mr.Frank Brown : Good day,

It is my humble pleasure to write this letter irrespective of the fact
that you do not know me. However, I came to know of you in my private
search for a reliable and trustworthy person that can handle a
confidential transaction of this nature in respect of this, I got your
contact through an uprooted search on the internet. Though I know that a
transaction of this magnitude will make any one apprehensive and worried,
but I am assuring you that all will be well at the end of the day.

I am Mr Frank Brown, son of late Mr John Brown of Sierra Leone who was
killed by the Sierra Leone''s rebel forces on the 24th of December,1999 in
my country Sierra Leone. When he was still alive, he deposited the sum of
US$10,000,000.00 in one of the banks in Abidjan Cote d´Ivoire.

This money was made from the sale of Gold and Diamond by my mother and she
have already decided to use this money for future investment of the
family.Recently, I rushed down to Abidjan after being able to locate where
my late father kept the deposit slip that was given to him by the bank
when he deposited the funds in the bank .

I have confirmed from the bank that the money is with them, when I
demanded for the withdrawal of the funds to me in my capacity of being the
son of Mr Brown, the depositor of the funds, I was told that in the
absence of my father, the only person that can demand for thefunds is my
late father´s foreign partner on whose behalf the consignment was
deposited.

When my late father deposited the funds in the bank, he did not give the
name or gender of his foreign partner on whose behalf he was depositing
the funds,
he made the declaration for security reasons as he did not want the bank
to demand from him how he made the money hence he declared the funds as
belonging to his foreign partner.

Meanwhile, my father have instructed me that in the case of his death,
that I should look for a trusted foreigner who can assist me to move out
this money from Côte d´Ivoire immediately for investment .

Based on this , I solicit for your assistance to transfer this fund into
your Account, but I will demand for the following requirement:

(1) Could you provide for me a safe Bank Account where this fund will be
transferred to in your country.

(2) Could you be able to introduce me to a profitable business venture
that would not require much technical expertise in your country where part
of this fund will be invested?

I am a Christian and I will please, want you to handle this transaction
based on the trust I have established on you.
For your assistance in this transaction, I have decided to compensate you
with 10 percent of the total amount at the end of this business.
The security of this business is very important to me and as such, I would
like you to keep this business very confidential. I shall expect an early
response from you.
Thank you and God bless.

Yours sincerely,
Mr Frank Brown



Let's all get in line to give him our bank account info!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Internet Scammers #24  
Just tell him to send a cashier's check made out to you. Of course the check will never come and if it does it will be forged. If he needs a business partner to withdraw the money, why doesn't he just get some one in Sierra Leone. I guess people in Sierra Leone are just not trustworthy.
 
   / Internet Scammers #25  
How is Mr. Brown going to make money on this thing unless you happen, for some reason, to give him an account # that has existing funds in it?
 
   / Internet Scammers #26  
OH, I get it....He's going to deposit a fake check in the account and then withdraw funds before the bank finds out the check is fake, and the bank will come after you for the money.
 
   / Internet Scammers #27  
What a cheapo. I was offered 30%

Eugene
 
   / Internet Scammers #28  
I received that same e-mail today as a reply to my classified listing. I told as long as he was in Africa to go find a hungry lion to feed himself to.
 
   / Internet Scammers #30  
The scam is either to get you to pony up your money based on you--and perhaps your bank's--assumption that a cashier's check is good (If the scam is really good, the scammers have inside information as to actual cashier's check numbers issued and the amounts so a call to the bank indicates that yes that check has been issued and is that it is good) or it is to get your account number and routing information to suck funds out of your acct. If you have an empty acct, they can't suck anything out.

Amazing what you can do with a little information. Apparently they are hitting the heavy equipment sales these days.
 
   / Internet Scammers #31  
Doc., I believe the idea behind a cashier's or certified check is that you don't have to wait for the funds to clear, so one can deposit the bogus check in an otherwise empty account and immediately begin withdrawing money from it.
 
   / Internet Scammers #32  
I am a retired minister, I have a hard time believeing what people do in the name of Christ. Saying they are Chriistian and saying God bless and all that, and all they want to do is rob you. I believe there is a place waiting for them, and it will be alot hotter than it will be for most that go there.
 
   / Internet Scammers #33  
I guess we all have opinions and feelings, but a "real Christian" accepts the Bible as God's word. - Like Revelation 22:15 - "Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and the fornicators and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone liking and carrying on a lie.'" Plain and simple, no interpretation needed here.
Jim
 
   / Internet Scammers #34  
Hey guys,
On Monday, FEDEX delivered an International envelope with a $7,000 check in it. Talk about a convoluted mess, the check came from England, the rip-off artist wants money sent to Africa /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif, and the (i'm sure its phoney)check is drawn on US Bank, using a Travelers Express Company check . I will probably call the FBI and see if they care to chase down this guy. All this for a $3,500 tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
   / Internet Scammers #35  
"All this for a $3500 tractor."


Well, these people probably have $15 in a fed-ex bill, and $2 in creating a bogus check. If they can get you to wire back the $3500 extra for shipping, it is a huge return on investment. If they get you to pay to ship your tractor your are out the tractor and the money for the shipping. They may only get the tractor, but still for less than a $20 investment and virtually no chance of being caught they can do this all day. Imagine if you sent out 50 of these a day, at a cost of $1000 and got 20% response, then you made over $20,000 in profit in one day alone.

Remember, don't ship overseas. I doubt the FBI will bother even try to look into it much unless they think there is someone in the US involved.
 
   / Internet Scammers #36  
I was searching on the web. Its called the Nigerian 419 scam. Your bank may credit your account for the amount until the check is found to be bogus. The return address on the fed-ex is non-existent and fed-ex will track the package back to another country (nigeria or an adjacent country). Apparently this scam is within the top 5 industries in Nigeria.

I guess you have to hold any check, even a certified check for ten days, Call the issuing bank, verify the account, the certified number, the amount, etc., etc., etc.. Easier just to say that you don't do business with people out of the country.
 
   / Internet Scammers #37  
The reason they use FEDX instead of the Post office, is there is no mail fraud. So the feds won't chase them down. If the check is written from a bank in the US. What stops you from cashing it at one of their branches? If they wrote the check and checked to see if it was good, you take the cash and run! Then ship the tractor out. Of course we all know the check is bogus.
 
   / Internet Scammers #38  
They will select a bank a long distance from you. Are you going to travel half way across the country to try to cash the check? It's bogus, It's bogus, It's bogus. Everyone here keeps hoping that they can scam the scammer or maybe the deal is on the up and up. Not likely, they have been doing this a long, long, long long time. They know a response to every suspicion and action on your part. You can never know how deep the scam goes and who they have working with them. Don't bite. It's a scam, scam, scam. Just ignore it or send the check to the proper authorities.
 
   / Internet Scammers #39  
I got several e-mails from a guy that is a "distributor" of Ag equipment and wants my Yanmar. He "needs my help" to get through the red tape and shipping to Nigeria. I responded with "When you send me US cash, I'll be happy to forward the balance to your shipper". Never heard from him again /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Internet Scammers #40  
Another thought.....Imagine someone wants to launder some money and are willing to pay 10-15% for the service. The individual overpays for a tractor or other equipment and gets money wired to another account. It appears to authorities that a tractor was bought (and compared to a non grey-market tractor a similar price per hp was paid). What actually happened is someone bought a tractor which he may have later resold and took the illegal money and laundered it.

This certainly could be happening--imagine when the FBI comes knocking on your door about you laundering money for terrorists.

Almost all of these are probably scams, but there might be other reasons to overpay.
 

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