Intimidating Drivers

[Midniteoyl]

Recaptured energy (regenerative braking) is energy too, it just isn't being 100% wasted in the form of heat dissipation.

The ultimate clean and cheap energy source is the sun. When battery technology reaches the point where quick charge transfers can take place, higher storage capacity, etc., batteries charged from solar panels or wind turbines will convert solar energy to motive energy. Battery research and development is not standing still, the costs of climate change are driving this effort, however indirectly.

It is short-sighted to assume that batteries are, or can be, only charged by burning a fossil fuel somewhere other than in an engine. It just ain't so. At current solar PV prices, it is easy to achieve equivalent fuel costs of 50 mpg in an EV. The technology is not even half-mature yet.

Didnt say only from fossil fuel.. Was just answering the post I quoted and in that context.

 

[dave1949]

Didnt say only from fossil fuel.. Was just answering the post I quoted and in that context.

Sorry, no offense intended.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Sorry, no offense intended.

Just clearing it up.. no worries.

 

[turnkey4099]

Elevator mechanisms have done that for a long time also. DIscharge on the way up, recharge on the way down.

But there are losses. The recharge never even comes close to replacing the energy that was used.
Some is better than none though.
Harry K

 

[buickanddeere]

Some people don't pious waddle dorks clogging the roads with their environment saving vehicle who are traveling slower than the rest of the traffic.

 

[Midniteoyl]

But people in gas guzzlers traveling slow are ok :thumbsup:

 

[buickanddeere]

Quote Originally Posted by dave1949 View Post
Recaptured energy (regenerative braking) is energy too, it just isn't being 100% wasted in the form of heat dissipation.

The ultimate clean and cheap energy source is the sun. When battery technology reaches the point where quick charge transfers can take place, higher storage capacity, etc., batteries charged from solar panels or wind turbines will convert solar energy to motive energy. Battery research and development is not standing still, the costs of climate change are driving this effort, however indirectly.

It is short-sighted to assume that batteries are, or can be, only charged by burning a fossil fuel somewhere other than in an engine. It just ain't so. At current solar PV prices, it is easy to achieve equivalent fuel costs of 50 mpg in an EV. The technology is not even half-mature yet.

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I don't know why some people think there are still great advancements in batteries yet? There is a max amount of energy that a battery can store per pound of battery and that is it. There is no way to engineer a battery to do the equivalent of pouring 25 gallons of gasoline into a 5 gallon tank.
Rapid charging and rapid discharge is limited by heat. Forget about low cost reliable battery banks that can be rapid charged in the time it takes to pump 20 gallons of gasoline.
Don't go thinking there are technological breakthroughs in solar panels just around the corner either. 10 square ft of solar panels flat on a car roof isn't going to charge very much either. Ever look at the dismal performance of the light weight solar go-karts the students build for cross country races.
Solar panels and wind turbines? Obviously the eco renewable energy wizards do not ask about the impact of solar and wind turbines on the national power grid. Last time I checked people drive in the daytime and park at night. Where is your solar charging? Wind power is unreliable and must be backed up with gas, coal or hydro-electric.
An electric car owned and used by a well paid engineer who owns tools,resides on a rural estate having solar panels and a wind turbine is one thing. Joe above average $45hr living in a small town or city is another matter with an eco vehicle is another. Then there is Joe average $25hr living in rural areas and must travel longer distances on lower quality roads.
If you want clean energy. Use abundant natural gas and convert it to methanol via nuclear steam.

 

[cqaigy2]

This isn't an intimidation thing, but sometimes while at a stop, waiting for traffic to clear, a bigger vehicle will pull up beside you just a little past you as to block your view of on coming traffic. Now i know from experience when driving my truck, i can usually see over most smaller vehicles so i don't need to pull up past them and into their line of sight.

 

[buickanddeere]

But people in gas guzzlers traveling slow are ok :thumbsup:

I'm not fussy for anybody clogging the highway by traveling less than the average flow of the traffic. They are a safety hazard disrupting the flow.

 

[troutsqueezer]

If I had known how much the Prius would wind up bugging a lot of people, I would have bought two of them. That's how I roll.

TripleR nailed it: Sometimes we just see what we expect to see.