Is it just me, or does this go too far?

[ducati996]

The stuff I posted ?

If yes, I also wondered, heck, it's not even in their manual. Nothing.
Even the unit weight is no where to be found.

FYI, here's the weights.

It cant be accurate - it has the 2305 being faster on dump and rise cycle rates than the 2520. The 2320 & 2520 have higher PSI ratings than the 2305, and the 2520 has the flow. But they have the 2305 lifting specs at or above the 2520. Its a total mess with this spec that was posted.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

It cant be accurate - it has the 2305 being faster on dump and rise cycle rates than the 2520. The 2320 & 2520 have higher PSI ratings than the 2305, and the 2520 has the flow. But they have the 2305 lifting specs at or above the 2520. Its a total mess with this spec that was posted.

So it HAS to be OFFICIAL Deere marketing material...

 

[ducati996]

So it HAS to be OFFICIAL Deere marketing material...

LOL!! good one - you may be right

 

[Backup]

Looks like Kubota is up to the same tricks. The 2006 full line brochure shows the LA243 loader has lift capacity of 745 lbs, with no mention of how they got that figure. On the larger tractors they seem to list real numbers and indicate where they got them. Makes me think that the market for the SCUTs is more apt to brochure shop and compare numbers - therefore the manufacturers apply appropriate marketing with big numbers. Does make it hard to find out what is reality, and more importantly, what really matters. I'm gonna flip a coin, or let my kids decide what color they like better - green or orange!

 

[ducati996]

Actually I have some real life feedback and pictures to boot - I was using my 2520 and BH today for the first time since I traded a 2320 in for it -
anyway the concrete was buried in my garden and I discovered it with my tiller - a few minutes later a mutant potatoe was unearthed -actually this conrete garden produces nice slabs that weight a mere 1000 lbs or less.
In this case Im pretty certain it was 800 plus pounds. It had my backhoe and the loaded tires 420 lbs each looking light in the rear loofers...
Anyway I removed it and the 2520 had speed and power to spare at max. height. Its significantly stronger and faster than my old 4100 ( and that was a perfomer)

Anyway enjoy the pictures..

 

[machmeter62]

Looks like Kubota is up to the same tricks. The 2006 full line brochure shows the LA243 loader has lift capacity of 745 lbs, with no mention of how they got that figure. On the larger tractors they seem to list real numbers and indicate where they got them. Makes me think that the market for the SCUTs is more apt to brochure shop and compare numbers - therefore the manufacturers apply appropriate marketing with big numbers. Does make it hard to find out what is reality, and more importantly, what really matters. I'm gonna flip a coin, or let my kids decide what color they like better - green or orange!

Kubota uses metric numbers for their loaders lift capacity; if you multipy 243 X 2.2, that will give you the actual lifting power of 535#. Hope this helps.

 

[mike69440]

John Deere 2000 Series Compact Utility Tractors


Lift up to 1277lbs†

"†Up to 1.5 meters or 59 inches."

I've got a problem when tractor companies do this. I think we are starting to verge on deceptive advertising here. Right on the main page for the 2000 series Deere is claiming that the 200cx lifts 1277 lbs. But keep reading, no where does it say where they came up with that figure. Its over double the loaders real world performance! In all liklyhood its from the pivot pin where no loads are lifted from. In the fine print they point out that its up to 59" - so its not to full height where every other company takes their measurements. At somepoint someone is going to have to file a false advertising lawsuit to stop these kinda things. There are too many companies stretching the truth too far. The average comsumer has no idea what they are buying and no fair basis for comparing two machines.

Yes, I am a competing dealer - however I'd be saying the same thing is Kubota or New Holland did this stuff. I've called out Mahindra and Kioti for doing this too. This instance deserves mention though because its the first time I've seen anything measured below full lift height.

Well Kubota L39 Specs seem suspect to me because my L39 never had the +3500 lb curl force advertised. Yes, the pressures were checked by dealer. Kubota also rates the lift at 2200 lbs but I doubt it has much more than 1600-1700 Lbs lift.

Whatever happened to being conservative?

PS my little old B7200 will lift 800 Lbs with the pressures cranked up some.

 

[ducati996]

John Deere 2000 Series Compact Utility Tractors


Lift up to 1277lbs†

"†Up to 1.5 meters or 59 inches."

Someone on another thread mentioned the 59" was an SAE in the Sae Carry Position (59" above ground line)

Just for giggles I use a 61" bucket on my 2520 - what's the most volume the 61" can hold and best guess on how much it would weigh - I know I wont fit 1,000 lbs of free weight in the bucket, so any material that comes to mind that may come close? all I know is I stuff it all the time and it goes up...willing to try and document it, maybe this weekend

Duc

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

If you really want to test this, the only way to do it is with a load cell. Even throwing weights in your bucket is pointless. Yea you know what they weigh - but we go back to this same issue.. where exactly where in the bucket are they. Set them at the front edge and your capacity drops quite a bit - curl the bucket back and your now lifting more.


I personally do own a load cell and have tested tractors with it. If you would like to rent it (it cost me $350) for a few days I'd certianly let you.

 

[DavesTractor]

If you really want to test this, the only way to do it is with a load cell. Even throwing weights in your bucket is pointless. Yea you know what they weigh - but we go back to this same issue.. where exactly where in the bucket are they. Set them at the front edge and your capacity drops quite a bit - curl the bucket back and your now lifting more.


I personally do own a load cell and have tested tractors with it. If you would like to rent it (it cost me $350) for a few days I'd certianly let you.

Neil, could you describe how the load cell works? Sounds interesting.