MossRoad
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There's a lot of folks on here with a farm number. I've got one.
Is it time for a gasoline engine tractor?
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daugen
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I just got 250 gallons of diesel delivered for my new tank at $1.399 a gallon. Well, it was two months ago when the price was at the bottom. Red died. No paperwork...
About two years worth for me, and I figured diesel was good for two years. Actually I'll probably get it topped off next summer.
Would I do this with gasoline? Not even with ethanol free.
Clearly older lower compression tractor engines seem to run on almost anything you put in. My experience with engines under 20hp is very different though. Only exception seems to be my "real" Hondas, not Chondas, which always start. Granted I dose them with SeaFoam, etc.
I'm at 250 hours with my diesel X750 JD GT and I flat out love the thing. I do find fuel usage goes up substantially when run at higher rpm, so i try to slow it down a bit, and keep my blades sharp so I can.
What about torque and HP concerns? Haven't diesels always put out more torque? Isnt that what we really want with our tractors? Though I was surprised to find the spec on my 23hp Vanguard that I repowered my Gravely with was almost the same torque as my diesel JD. But I'm guessing that torque comes in at higher rpm. But then one mows at higher rpm...
About two years worth for me, and I figured diesel was good for two years. Actually I'll probably get it topped off next summer.
Would I do this with gasoline? Not even with ethanol free.
Clearly older lower compression tractor engines seem to run on almost anything you put in. My experience with engines under 20hp is very different though. Only exception seems to be my "real" Hondas, not Chondas, which always start. Granted I dose them with SeaFoam, etc.
I'm at 250 hours with my diesel X750 JD GT and I flat out love the thing. I do find fuel usage goes up substantially when run at higher rpm, so i try to slow it down a bit, and keep my blades sharp so I can.
What about torque and HP concerns? Haven't diesels always put out more torque? Isnt that what we really want with our tractors? Though I was surprised to find the spec on my 23hp Vanguard that I repowered my Gravely with was almost the same torque as my diesel JD. But I'm guessing that torque comes in at higher rpm. But then one mows at higher rpm...
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Whilst gas motors for tractors again are a possibility, if they were practical they would be in semi's and Ford/Dodge/GM would be plastering the TV with ads about their big block, high torque, gas 3/4 ton trucks. There is no law saying you can't rip out the diesel in your Kubota and bolt in a 454 Chevy to get rid of the emmisions krap, have at it.... But I bet the diesel was and is the best choice.... Probably the ' next big thing ' will be battery powered tractors for lower hp machines.. have to plug it in for an hour or so a couple times a day.. 
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Redneck in training
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That has more to do with aerodynamic drag than mass.
Redneck in training
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Whilst gas motors for tractors again are a possibility, if they were practical they would be in semi's and Ford/Dodge/GM would be plastering the TV with ads about their big block, high torque, gas 3/4 ton trucks. There is no law saying you can't rip out the diesel in your Kubota and bolt in a 454 Chevy to get rid of the emmisions krap, have at it.... But I bet the diesel was and is the best choice.... Probably the ' next big thing ' will be battery powered tractors for lower hp machines.. have to plug it in for an hour or so a couple times a day..
Hybrid machines are coming. Komatsu makes a backhoe with electric energy recovery.
http://www.komatsu.co.nz/AboutKomat...id Brochure_LR/Komatsu Hybrid Brochure_LR.pdf
Egon
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Summer Diesel or Winter Diesel?
Egon
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Who makes a diesel with variable valve timing, shuting down cylinder's and other shut stuff?
JerryK
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This argument has played out over the last 100 years, gas lost a long time ago; more expensive, hard to store, dangerous to use, has less energy, costs more to refine, and gas engines don't produce the toque need to do jobs a tractor performs, gas engines require more maintenance, and are shorter lived. It's a no brainier it's diesel. Oh, by the way a clean diesel produces way less CO2 then gas, just added that for a modern twist. HS
Sawyer Rob
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IF only you was as smart as you would like the folks here, to think you are...
In MANY places, including here, ag diesel is available right at the pump, just take a can and fill it with what ever amount you want... I buy mine from the same station I buy all of my fuel...
I'll help you out with a "hint", it's RED!
SR
