Is it time for a gasoline engine tractor?

[Turbys_1700]

2nd that & buy older tractors w/o the crap on them. IMO, the EPA dosen't have a clue about this & is just stabbing in the darkness.

Ronnie

If you would calculate the total impact that tractors in our industry have on emissions it would be very small. Almost insignificant. It is all about the money. Just follow the money.

 

[k0ua]

I'd settle for one that uses politicians.

+1. An excellent use for an otherwise useless resource.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Our Troybuilt already HAS a gas engine.

When did Troybuilt start making a CUT tractor. All I see is lawn care products like mowers, weedeater and tillers.

 

[oldballs]

+1. An excellent use for an otherwise useless resource.

AND............it is renewable forever.:laughing:

 

[flusher]

yeah right!!! For decades they said they were making the engines as fuel efficient as possible but they only got 10 mpg with a best in class of around 20 mpg. Now after feds mandated better fuel economy for decades, we now have 300+HP engines with 31MPG claims (Dodge Charger/Challenger) so the laws of physics change over time especially when government steps up and demands it. I can still remember the automakers claims that it was not possible to make car engines to meet the requirement but they did when faced with possibility of heavy fines and/or not being allowed to sell their products. So far they continue to make the engines more efficient and also with more HP.
I think they can do the same with the diesel engines if they have too. Right now they are just scabbing on whatever they can come up with to barely meet the environmental requirements and we all know they can do something better than Urea injection. A double turbocharger comes to mind to prevent the carbon from forming in the first place. Maybe even an electric motor driven one like I see proposed on a new model car to reduce the turbo lag.
Lot of things they could do, but the price goes up. Right now they are just getting the minimums with minimal effort but causing the public a PIA with the operation and maintenance of these new Tier IV engines.

The laws of physics that are relevant to automotive technology are alive and well and don't change. What changes are the operating requirements for automotive engines and transmissions (improved efficiency, lower exhaust emissions, lower manufacturing cost, etc) which motivate changes in design, materials, manufacturability.

 

[buickanddeere]

I'd settle for a compact using dilithium crystals

The Dilithium Crystals do not make power. They convert the energy from the matter/anti-matter reaction Into a usable format.

 

[buickanddeere]

yeah right!!! For decades they said they were making the engines as fuel efficient as possible but they only got 10 mpg with a best in class of around 20 mpg. Now after feds mandated better fuel economy for decades, we now have 300+HP engines with 31MPG claims (Dodge Charger/Challenger) so the laws of physics change over time especially when government steps up and demands it. I can still remember the automakers claims that it was not possible to make car engines to meet the requirement but they did when faced with possibility of heavy fines and/or not being allowed to sell their products. So far they continue to make the engines more efficient and also with more HP.
I think they can do the same with the diesel engines if they have too. Right now they are just scabbing on whatever they can come up with to barely meet the environmental requirements and we all know they can do something better than Urea injection. A double turbocharger comes to mind to prevent the carbon from forming in the first place. Maybe even an electric motor driven one like I see proposed on a new model car to reduce the turbo lag.
Lot of things they could do, but the price goes up. Right now they are just getting the minimums with minimal effort but causing the public a PIA with the operation and maintenance of these new Tier IV engines.

The problem is the cost of diminishing returns and absolute limits. There is only so many btu of energy in a gallon of fuel.

 

[k0ua]

AND............it is renewable forever.:laughing:

AND, utilizing this energy source helps clean up the environment.! :laughing:

 

[Gator6x4]

The old gasoline engine powered tractor are selling at higher prices at estate auctions than equivalent diesels. So there is definitely a market out there for gasoline powered tractors. Some of the prices being paid for a forty or more year gas driven tractor are jaw dropping.

 

[jlgurr]

If they make a F.I. gasoline engine, it may be ok, they seem to stand up to the ethanol gas without varnishing up. I would never buy a gasoline tractor with a carb. I do hope the ones I have last me a lifetime. Stricter gov. regulations and more BS might make my interim tier IV more valuable in the future. I would think that engine manufacturers could come up with a diesel that meets the federal requirements and not cause a ton of BS with urea, regen etc to aggravate the user.

They might need to contact Volkswagen...

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