Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor??

   / Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor?? #31  
Spiveyman said:
I love how you refer to moving your rears in and out like you are adjusting a Tonka toy! :D Ha! I think that might qualify you as "handy." For reference, see post # 20 above! :) For the serious newbie here, that certainly seems like a big deal. My rears are filled, about 500 lbs each. Is it a one man job to change the position? Do you have to have serious tools for this? I doubt I even have a jack or stands that will reach that high or carry that heavy of a load. Sounds like another trip to TSC for me! :) And then I'm not sure where I'd have level enough ground to do that, but I'd love to be able to. That would truly be very handy for me. That would solve my problems with this thing.

It is nice to have a jack and concrete floor but it is not strictly necessary.

We have changed a tires in the field before when we have had blowouts and old tires just falling apart.

You just neeed to make a ramp going up at about a 30 degree angle out of thick wood.

Then, back the tractor up this ramp, positioning the ramp over the rear axle on the side with the bad tire.

This will lift the tire up so you can change it.

We have even used this technique on a combine not to long ago (thats English farmers for you ;), get er done method)
 
   / Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor?? #32  
BTDT said:
Something that might work for you, buy 2 four foot BB's, and fasten them together.
I'm afraid that's an idea just looking for a disaster. Just because one 4' boxblade might be rated for up to a 25hp tractor doesn't mean that two of them glued together can handle 50hp. In case you didn't check, the Ford 6600 engines are rated at ~77hp

//greg//
 
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   / Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor?? #33  
Besides, mounting two box blades together would require a welder, or a drill and some nuts and bolts and he has already made it clear that being handy isn't exactly what his wife calls him. She did marry him for a good reason, so he might have something else on us handy guys.
As far as the rears on my tractor, the JD2555 is a piece of cake to change. Just a little time and tools. The Ford 7710 is another completely different animal. We tried to remove the outside dual when I purchased it so it wouldn't be a wide load going down the road. Two men and a forklift and we still didn't get that to happen, so I understand your problem. When you do get around to doing it, please be careful, extra careful and have some help around for the first time. Wouldn't be a bad idea to have a bystander around any other time just in case something did go wrong.
David from jax
 
   / Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor??
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#34  
john_bud said:
You may want to sit down - or lie down if you are already sitting.

Your rear tires if filled are probably closer to 1200 pounds each. 16.9x38's have 950 pounds of fill alone. (each)...

...It's still a one man job to change, but it's a careful and cautious man with some experience and the ability to jump out of the way!

HOLY COW!!! :eek: OK, I have 18.4 X 34's on there - by that website, filled, they're a little over 1,000 lbs EACH! Cool. :cool: Makes me feel a little better about the whole ballast thing and my FEL. When I bought it the guy's comments were that they were filled and that added about 1,000 lbs. I assumed he meant total. So as I was saying... one man job huh? :confused: There's a good chance they will be staying at 7'. :)

BTDT said:
Something that might work for you, buy 2 four foot BB's, and fasten them together. You could make it solid, or leave the center adjustable (for crowning). Two six footers, and you could grade 12' at a time. I'm sure your tractor could handle that easy.

This sounds like a job for 3RRL, but why stop at 2 BB's side by side. If you're going to go to all the trouble, why not use 3 of them in a batwing type of assembly? 3RRL could hook up a couple cylinders so you could lift them for those narrow jobs. Talk about a weight adder for when you really need to dig down! :D

Grrrr said:
It is nice to have a jack and concrete floor but it is not strictly necessary... ...You just neeed to make a ramp going up at about a 30 degree angle out of thick wood... ...We have even used this technique on a combine not to long ago (thats English farmers for you, get er done method)

This could help me get that sucker off the ground, but how do you move around a tire that weighs over 1,000lbs? This may be just inexperience, but say I could get the rear lifted, how do you move it without some serious equipment?

greg_g said:
...In case you didn't check, the Ford 6600 engines are rated at ~77hp

:cool: That's American farmers for you, MORE POWER! :D (Insert Tim Allen sound effects)

sandman2234 said:
Besides, mounting two box blades together would require a welder, or a drill and some nuts and bolts and he has already made it clear that being handy isn't exactly what his wife calls him. She did marry him for a good reason, so he might have something else on us handy guys.
As far as the rears on my tractor, the JD2555 is a piece of cake to change. Just a little time and tools. The Ford 7710 is another completely different animal. We tried to remove the outside dual when I purchased it so it wouldn't be a wide load going down the road. Two men and a forklift and we still didn't get that to happen, so I understand your problem. When you do get around to doing it, please be careful, extra careful and have some help around for the first time. Wouldn't be a bad idea to have a bystander around any other time just in case something did go wrong.

OK, now, I could handle a drill and some bolts. I don't want to sound like too much of a wuss. :) I just can't weld, yet, but I'll get there. Maybe one of those winter projects. And you're right, it would be good to have a bystander there to help with filling out the police report for when my wife tries to collect on the life insurance policy. I appreciate the support, but I think I'll leave this to the guys at the shop.

As for that good reason my wife married me... I'm still trying to figure it out, and hoping she doesn't put too much thought into it. :) I was one of those guys on his wedding day hoping and praying like crazy she wouldn't come to her senses!!! Here's the fam:
 

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   / Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor?? #36  
Spiveyman said:
This could help me get that sucker off the ground, but how do you move around a tire that weighs over 1,000lbs? This may be just inexperience, but say I could get the rear lifted, how do you move it without some serious equipment?

You need another tractor with a FEL or some big biceps :D
 
   / Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor??
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#37  
AAARRRRRGGGGG! :mad: They STILL don't have my tractor done. I've been without the thing for 2 weeks and I'm starting to have withdrawal symptoms. I did stop by the shop for my tractor fix though and measured the rears. They are exactly 7' 9". The only thing they have left to do is bring the rears in. He said they have to take the wheel off, pull the bolts holding the center part (hub?), turn it around and pop the bolts back in, then slap it back on the tractor. Should give me 6" or so on each side, so I'll be squeaking by with a 7' BB, but that's close enough. Only problem is, I had to do REAL work tonight when I'd planned on playing with my new FEL/BB.

My wife keeps telling me to have patience, I keep telling her I have no use for them since I'm not a doctor. :D However, she got the last laugh tonight. I was in poison ivy up to my ears all evening. :(
 
   / Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor??
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#38  
3RRL said:
Spiv-
THAT is a great picture!


Thanks man, see why I was sweating it on the alter? :) That's Kim along with my little girl Kendra Shea and my future cowboy Cody Wayne. We just picked out his first tractor - little battery powered John Deere with a FEL and a wagon. Very cool! Of course it will be another year and a half before he can ride it, but his sister will break it in for him.
 
   / Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor?? #39  
greg_g said:
I'm afraid that's an idea just looking for a disaster. Just because one 4' boxblade might be rated for up to a 25hp tractor doesn't mean that two of them glued together can handle 50hp. In case you didn't check, the Ford 6600 engines are rated at ~77hp

//greg//

Go back and read what he said in post #14, said he wants to maintain road and trail, and shows some pics. If I had his tractor, I'd do what I suggested in a heartbeat.
 
   / Is it unwise to buy a BB narrower than your tractor?? #40  
Hey, ultimately you can buy whatever you like. But, if you're going to use a box blade to do what it was designed for and get the results expected, you need one to cover your tractor width. Short of that, you will continually be limited and unhappy with the results of your BB jobs and wishing you had the more appropriate unit for your tractor.

Many posters above have demonstrated clearly to this and the benefits of sizing a BB properly with your machine and they aren't spewing baloney. Go ahead, shave a few bucks and get the smaller rig but get ready to spend every day after wishing you had splurged for the bigger BB that can handle everything your tractor can dish out.


Take heed. I'm not saying, I'm just sayin'........
 
 

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