Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

[Oaktree]

I was the only one on road...cars, people everywhere & a real mess.
Never let it spin...if you do your tires are Flintstone ice wheels. So about 35 mph in 3rd
slow & steady on crown. Hills build speed slowly and 5-10mph at top. No brakes...easy & gear down.
I believe it's skill, low hp, low center of gravity and my experience too heavy is detrimental since it sinks down.
Knock on wood I've never had chains, studs, snow tires and never lost control or got stuck.

Driving in snow is a skill. Once mastered it all seems like common sense, but apparently not all have it. I've never had issues with any FWD vehicle with decent tires on it, except occasionally insufficient ground clearance in a sedan. RWD generally sucks, even if you have weight in the back. You almost have to try to get in trouble with AWD, though some seem to manage.

 

[NoTrespassing]

For what it's worth:
I've had lots of Hyundai's I bought new and in 2002 driving an '01 Accent (100hp, 2200# manual) from my homeplace to home here...about 15 miles, many hills & we had a blizzard.
I turn to get on a 4 lane expressway and two tractor trailers sideways nose to nose, guys motion me to stop. State police told them do NOT let anyone through...but I waved by, went through to cursing & middle fingers.
I was the only one on road...cars, people everywhere & a real mess.
Never let it spin...if you do your tires are Flintstone ice wheels. So about 35 mph in 3rd
slow & steady on crown. Hills build speed slowly and 5-10mph at top. No brakes...easy & gear down.
I believe it's skill, low hp, low center of gravity and my experience too heavy is detrimental since it sinks down.
Knock on wood I've never had chains, studs, snow tires and never lost control or got stuck.

Reminds me of a homecoming night in 1981. Our homecoming was during basketball season, so probably January. There was one h*ll of a blizzard but I wasn't about to let that keep me from a night of partying. Me and a friend were going stag with party refreshments in my 74 Mercury Comet. As we arrive at the gym there isn't another car in sight, and the place is abandoned. The homecoming dance was cancelled. We decided to drive to the next major town through the blizzard. The only other vehicle on the road was an 18 wheeler that we tucked in behind and followed for about 15 miles to the other town. We somehow managed to make it home late that night but I'll never forget it. We were young and dumb and I hope my teenage son is smarter than I was.

 

[Sprinkler Fitter]

You can keep the snow up there. Other than filling my well, I can do without it. Plowing it on our steep driveway at 5am on the open station Kubota leaves a lot to be desired and I am not looking forward to it!

I could not live in a place where I hated the weather that happens. I would move.

 

[NoTrespassing]

I could not live in a place where I hated the weather that happens. I would move.

I love the climate here about 95% of the time. I won't move while my parents are still living. They're in their 80's now.

 

[WinterDeere]

I hope my teenage son is smarter than I was.

Boy howdy, if that isn't a thought I've had a few thousand times, myself!

 

[tradosaurus]

Exactly. I've said it a million times, at least from the standpoint of weather and scenery, California is one of the greatest places on earth! But you'd have to get rid of most of the Californians, before I'd ever be willing to live there, present company aside.

There are only 2 counties that have caused most of the issues in California. Most of the state are good people.

 

[NoTrespassing]

The Cybertruck Is Such a Mess That Insurance Companies Are Refusing to Even Cover It

Tesla Cybertruck owners insured through Hanover Insurance are being informed that their policy is being terminated.

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The Cybertruck Is Such a Mess That Insurance Companies Are Refusing to Even Cover It​

Truck Putz​

Tesla’s Cybertruck is turning out to be a full-blown disaster.

Sales are circling the drain, with the Elon Musk-led automaker selling a mere 4,306 Cybertrucks in the second quarter of 2025, a stunning 50.8 percent drop over the same period last year.

Resale values are cratering as well, with the value of a used Cybertruck plummeting by more than 30 percent over the span of a year.

Even just insuring the stainless steel behemoths is turning into a massive headache. Owners insured through Hanover Insurance are being informed that their policy is being terminated.

That’s exactly what happened to Illinois-based owner Tobias Troy Vahl, as flagged by TorqueNews last month. Hanover Insurance cited the vehicle’s low production volume and its high repair costs for terminating his policy.

It’s a damning predicament, highlighting just how much of a hot potato the electric pickup has become. Apart from turning into a highly politicized lightning rod, the Cybertruck has proven itself to be an expensive-to-repair and issues-riddled lemon. It’s a warning sign for the carmaker, which is already struggling with nosediving demand worldwide and plummeting sales.

Expensive Paperweight​

The news comes after insurer GEICO announced last year that it would no longer insure the Cybertruck.

Owners have long complained of sky-high monthly premiums, reaching almost $1,000 in certain cases. Insurance marketplace Insurify found earlier this year that the average owner is paying $3,392 a year, or $282 a month, compared to the national average of just $2,336.

The truck, which started out as one of Musk’s most beloved “pet projects,” has been mired in controversy for years now. The cracks started to show early on, with an extremely inflated price and terrible range.

It’s already been hit with eight recalls, from a trim piece that trapped the accelerator in the downward position to faulty inverters that turned the truck into a 6,600-pound brick to an enormous trim piece that peeled off at high speeds.

Even driving through a car wash without a special mode enabled has caused the vehicle to fail completely.
In other words, the reasons not to buy a Cybertruck have far eclipsed any rationale for buying one — and with insurance companies refusing to touch the thing, that reality has never been more evident.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Why Tesla Will Cancel Cybertruck Production Soon

There are lots of hints that the end may be near for the Tesla Cybertruck that we investigate here.

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Why Tesla Will Cancel Cybertruck Production Soon​

The future looked really bright for the Tesla Cybertruck back in early 2021 when it had over a million reservations, and Elon Musk estimated that Tesla could sell about a half-million trucks annually. Things continued to look good after its first year of production, as Tesla managed to ship about 46,000 units. This wasn’t a bad production ramp for the first year of a new vehicle with a production line capacity of 125,000 units per year. However, between then and now, the situation has become dire.

Social media is adding to the Cybertruck’s gloomy outlook. Let’s start with a long thread on Reddit about used Cybertruck prices:

zman0900 made the original post:

“According to an estimate obtained in Tesla’s app by an owner, a $100,000 AWD Foundation Series with about 6,200 miles on the odometer is now worth $65,400.”

On another Reddit thread, a Model 3 owner posted his impressions of the Cybertruck:

“I had a Cybertruck as a loaner while my model 3 was in service. I’d describe it as a vehicle that wasn’t meant to be driven.
The variable ratio steering, gear noise, yoke, buttons for signals are all either bad choices or bad design.

The worst thing of all is the flat-ish windshield and the multi-tone glare shield causing continuous glare right in your eye line.”

Finally, this comment captures the mood of another long Reddit thread about Cybertruck being a bust posted by InfamousBird3886:

“It’s enormous, impractical, breakable, hideous, and extremely unsafe. There’s basically no use case. If the reliant robin didn’t exist, I might argue that it’s the worst vehicle ever made.”
The Decline Is Accelerating

In the first half of 2025, Tesla has only managed to ship about 16,800 Cybertrucks. What’s worse is that the decline in sales seems to be accelerating. According an estimate by Cox Automotive, Tesla could only sell 5,385 Cybertrucks in the third quarter of 2025. This is down 63% from the previous year. It is absolutely terrible performance considering the fact that overall EV sales in the U.S. increased by over 40% in the third quarter. The third quarter performance was bolstered by the fact that it was the last quarter in which the federal EV tax credit was active. Even with the rush to buy EVs before the federal tax credit expired, Cybertruck sales dipped.

Industry experts put the cost of the Cybertruck production line in Austin, TX at around $1.1 billion. The Cybertruck has an estimated gross margin of about $16,000 which means that Tesla will need to sell about 68,750 Cybertrucks just to recoup the cost of the production line. As of mid-2025, approximately 46,000 to 50,000 Cybertrucks have been sold in total, though exact figures can vary by estimate. This means that Tesla will struggle to recoup its initial investment, let alone drive a profit from the Cybertruck.

How long can a company sit on almost a billion dollars of unsold inventory? Multiple outlets have reported that Tesla reached an inventory of over 10,000 Cybertruck units in early May 2025. With an average sales price of about $78,000, Tesla could be sitting on almost $800 million in Cybertruck inventory. At this level of inventory, the company will almost certainly need to curtail or stop production.

Before we get into the inside baseball below, Tesla has already started cancellations which could be indications about the Cybertruck’s future. Tesla recently canceled the least expensive rear-wheel-drive (RWD) model due to low demand and high price. This version was removed from the online configurator in September 2025. The remaining models available are the dual-motor all-wheel drive and the Cyberbeast. Also, the company has discontinued components like the range extender.

 

[tradosaurus]

Hate to rain on your otherwise good post… but vehicle weight does not help at all in ice. It actually hurts performance on ice, a bit.

Doesn't matter what vehicle you are driving, ice will create problems. 4WD just becomes 4 wheel slide.
My Tesla Y weight is almost equally distributed and driving in rain is planted better than any other vehicle I've owned.
The Cybertruck has supposedly a 52/48 weight distribution empty and can adjust its height a total of 6". I would feel safer in a Cybertruck than my previously owned F250 diesel truck.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Doesn't matter what vehicle you are driving, ice will create problems. 4WD just becomes 4 wheel slide.
My Tesla Y weight is almost equally distributed and driving in rain is planted better than any other vehicle I've owned.
The Cybertruck has supposedly a 52/48 weight distribution empty and can adjust its height a total of 6". I would feel safer in a Cybertruck than my previously owned F250 diesel truck.

From what I've been reading, you may not be able to insure a Cybertruck very easily. Policies are being cancelled according to some articles and social media. Take for what it's worth...