Backhoe Is the L39 stronger than the L4600?

[Carl_NH]

Ducati

"but I've got someone telling me a JD with hoe attachment may be what I want. Of course they are claiming that his is holding up better than his friends Kubota. However, he couldn't tell me what series bota he was comparing it to. Theories on that?"

Gary is right on this - The JD110 TLB is closest to the L39/45 series and is a very capable machine - they are not made any more and good ones are out there if you are patient.

A good TLB in very good condition can be hard to find, and it may take some time to find the right one..

Good luck

 

[SPYDERLK]

AND likely not comparing the Kubota TLB series with them either. I really don't think a tractor with a backhoe of any color is any better than another, they all have the same shortcoming of lower hydraulic flow and lighter weight compared to a true TLB. I haven't checked to see if Yanmar still make the CBL40 but that would be the only thing that may be comparable but I think they are priced comparable to a L45 or more. If you were to look at used, the JD 110 would be a good choice but barring that, you would be left with only the Kubota.

:confused2: How much hyd flow do they have? ... The 7520 has 17gpm and the hoe is mounted to a rigid subframe. When installed the TLB tractor weighs 12K#. I still consider it slow and anemic. Not having a way to truly lock the wheels is major.
larry

 

[Ducati07]

You guys are awesome!

I appreciate the heads up on what may be in the same category.

WOW Carl...that thing is nice! However, I am in California. Darn! No granite here in Redding, mostly volcanic, river rock, shale. The granite in CA is up where my parents live in the Sierra Mountains where it's covered in it. Not sure what shipping would be on something like that but we are at opposite ends so probably around 2.5k? Thank you very much for sharing that link it's got me thinking about if it's worth it. I want a 4:1 clamshell loader but I could always add that on later.

 

[mike69440]

Currently in production? I'm not aware of any honestly. JD canned the 110.

Having owned both the 39 and the 45, I suggest you do one of the following:

If you want the L39, buy used. Since the advent of the L45, L39 used values have tanked. If you search you will find a nice unit, with well less than 1k hours for about 1/2 the new MSRP.

or

Start scrounging around and beg, borrow, steal the extra to get the L45.

I thoroughly enjoyed owning the L39. The machine was great and worked really well on my property. The GST had a gear for everything. It was generally "quicker" traveling around the property. I enjoyed brush hogging with it as it would just "go". The L45 fell in my lap so I had a chance to "own" them side by side. The HST is just too easy. It is MUCH easier to do fine loader work (specifically with pallet forks). It is easier to use in slippery conditions as the HST applies the power with less jerking, the GST had a tendency to induce wheel spin. Sometimes the HST is slower around the property. I could ascend the hill on my driveway at a faster ground speed with the GST loaded or unloaded than with the HST. It is moderately annoying that the L45 doesn't have cruise control.

No matter what, if you get a TLB you will be amazed at the capability of these relatively small machines.

ac

Forget 4600

Have near 2000 hours on 2005 L39 Beat it to death, Love it

Weak points of L39.

Too light, I added weigh to 8,200 Lbs.

Tires too small should have 16 X 20 in rear and 10 x 16.5 up front, i.e 3" bigger diameter in rear and 2" bigger in front

Lacks HP. Never can have enough, especially moving snow.

L39's Grand L front axle to weak for this strong a TLB

Weak curl strength considering strong loader.

No Cab.

L45 fixes most all of the above except for weight, tires and cab

 

[workinallthetime]

moved from a bx 23 to a b3030 tlb, should have bought the b26!!!! next move to L45, the pump pressures of the tlb series is what makes them so atractive to me, i will have a front grapple and thumb for the rear. i chose kubota for alot of reasons years ago but the main reason was not just upfront cost but the cost of maintaining it throughout its life. i have been working on my fathers green tractors for as long as i could turn a wrench and the cost of parts and supplies for them was almost double that of similar kubota parts. Around here almost all of the green dealers are gone and the orange dealers are multiplying.
IMO if your leaning twords a TLB now do not go with a ag unit or you will be sorry.

 

[Kyle241]

As others have stated, the TLB line from Kubota are excellent machines. They have their place and are tougher than the L's. I used to have a B20 TLB and it helped built two homes, a 1000ft driveway, trenches for hydro, phone, drainage, etc. It did everything and more. If you have the need and have the money, the L45 is a beautiful machine and will do more than you realize. I love my MX5100 with BH92 however if had the cash, I would have gone for the L45.

 

[Gary Fowler]

:confused2: How much hyd flow do they have? ... The 7520 has 17gpm and the hoe is mounted to a rigid subframe. When installed the TLB tractor weighs 12K#. I still consider it slow and anemic. Not having a way to truly lock the wheels is major.
larry

Since there isn't a Kubota TLB in the HP range of the Mahindra 7520, I will just give the spec for pump capacity on the L45 @25 GPM and the larger but still much smaller than the 7520 @26.7 GPM.
You can get the full specs for lift force etc at Kubota.com but I will expect that even the L 45 exceeds the specs for the 7520 in everything but perhaps lift height. Since the 7520 is a much larger Utility class machine, it should have much greater lift height.
The thing that sets the Kubota TLB tractors apart from tractors that have an added on backhoe is that the FEL and backhoe subframe is integral, that is it is a one piece frame not two separate frames like tractors with added backhoes have. This makes it much stronger and less likely to damage the frame of the tractor.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Ducati - not sure if you are in CA or CT - sounds like CT with granite.. Here's a nice L39 on LI - great price - but if you are in CA it's the wrong coast!

Kubota L39 TL tractor back hoe loader only 300 hrs 4x4 like bobcat

Man you are always finding deals on machines. I see you still have your B21. I still love my B26 that you found for me but a nice L 45 would be great.

 

[Carl_NH]

Man you are always finding deals on machines. I see you still have your B21. I still love my B26 that you found for me but a nice L 45 would be great.

Yes I am looking longingly at the L45 too, but O/A height means modifying the barn doors, then the significant other has plans for a kitchen and sunroom, and the list goes on before I get any new tractor ideas.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Since there isn't a Kubota TLB in the HP range of the Mahindra 7520, I will just give the spec for pump capacity on the L45 @25 GPM and the larger but still much smaller than the 7520 @26.7 GPM.
You can get the full specs for lift force etc at Kubota.com but I will expect that even the L 45 exceeds the specs for the 7520 in everything but perhaps lift height. Since the 7520 is a much larger Utility class machine, it should have much greater lift height.
The thing that sets the Kubota TLB tractors apart from tractors that have an added on backhoe is that the FEL and backhoe subframe is integral, that is it is a one piece frame not two separate frames like tractors with added backhoes have. This makes it much stronger and less likely to damage the frame of the tractor.

Hmm-m, I checked. My lift capacity and height are both significantly higher than the L45. ... Mine is about the same as the M59 with 6" more height. My BH is weaker than that one tho. The 25GPM figure is a combined flow. The 17GPM on the 7520 does not count steering flow. I guess its all a matter of perspective. My ~12K platform moves around more than I like whereas the < 8K Kubota platforms with similar force capability are considered stable. :confused3:
larry