dragoneggs
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Good luck... I think smart move if you don't see a need.
Is this MIG wire even usable?
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Shield Arc
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Your ad looks good to me:thumbsup:. If / when you sell it, if you get any complaints about the wire worm tracking. Couple things that can cause this.
First is, wrong stick out length. Some manufactures suggest 3/4", some as much as 1 1/2". You have to read the spec sheet.
Second, dual shield is notorious for picking up moisture:thumbdown:. The manufacture will have criteria for heating the wire. Some can, some can't!
Thanks.
Final question! My dealer is trying to talk me out of the NR-212, instead he wants to sell me Select-arc 700GS wire. I noticed that this wire is limited in plate thickness to 3/16" and the dealer didn't know if the wire could be multi-passed. I called Select-Arc and asked the question and they quickly pushed me away from the 700GS (E71T-GS/E71T-14) wire because that was a consumer wire for lower power machines. Instead they recommended their 701 (E71T-11). Of course my dealer doesn't have 701 in stock and he can't price it over the phone. Starting to not be impressed. Anyways, the 701 is not available in a .035, it's .045 or 1/16" and bigger. My machine is already set up for 1/16". Should I get the roller, liner, tips, etc for the .045 or screw it and just go 1/16"? My goal with the flux core is to weld heavier sections outside. I already have several spools of .035 and gas. What I don't have is the flowmeter. This is starting to frustrate me because I wanted to burn this weekend and I'm headed to not being set up.
Tweco vs Bernard? Tweco is less than half the cost of the Bernard.
Final question! My dealer is trying to talk me out of the NR-212, instead he wants to sell me Select-arc 700GS wire. I noticed that this wire is limited in plate thickness to 3/16" and the dealer didn't know if the wire could be multi-passed. I called Select-Arc and asked the question and they quickly pushed me away from the 700GS (E71T-GS/E71T-14) wire because that was a consumer wire for lower power machines. Instead they recommended their 701 (E71T-11). Of course my dealer doesn't have 701 in stock and he can't price it over the phone. Starting to not be impressed. Anyways, the 701 is not available in a .035, it's .045 or 1/16" and bigger. My machine is already set up for 1/16". Should I get the roller, liner, tips, etc for the .045 or screw it and just go 1/16"? My goal with the flux core is to weld heavier sections outside. I already have several spools of .035 and gas. What I don't have is the flowmeter. This is starting to frustrate me because I wanted to burn this weekend and I'm headed to not being set up.
Tweco vs Bernard? Tweco is less than half the cost of the Bernard.
Shield Arc
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Cord I never ask the guys at the welding supply for advice. I've known one guy there for almost 30-years. Great guy, but doesn't know sheet about welding.
Before the Northridge earthquake in California the manufactures didn't put thickness limits on their wire. I think Hobart says the limit on 21-B is 3/4". I can't tell you how many 1" side bend tests I've passed with 21-B.
You might get away with using a regular Mig gun for shelf shielded wire up to about .045". Any bigger wire and you will need a flux core gun. And don't be surprised if you have trouble with .045" wire if you run real hot.
Last summer I found a roll of NR-211 in my Dad's barn that I took off a job in the early 1980s. Over the years several welding inspectors told be they never seen anybody pass a bend test with NR-211. So I had to give it a try
. This wire even had rust on it.
Before the Northridge earthquake in California the manufactures didn't put thickness limits on their wire. I think Hobart says the limit on 21-B is 3/4". I can't tell you how many 1" side bend tests I've passed with 21-B.
You might get away with using a regular Mig gun for shelf shielded wire up to about .045". Any bigger wire and you will need a flux core gun. And don't be surprised if you have trouble with .045" wire if you run real hot.
Last summer I found a roll of NR-211 in my Dad's barn that I took off a job in the early 1980s. Over the years several welding inspectors told be they never seen anybody pass a bend test with NR-211. So I had to give it a try
. This wire even had rust on it.Attachments
Shield Arc
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Shield Arc
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Are your drive rolls serrated? I think some of my drive roll are good for something like .010" difference.
Far as the contact tips, I would try them, if the .068" wire won't feed through the 1/16" tips, take a torch tip cleaner and open them up just a few thousands.
Far as the contact tips, I would try them, if the .068" wire won't feed through the 1/16" tips, take a torch tip cleaner and open them up just a few thousands.
Shield Arc
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I know the prior owner was running 1/16" build up wire through the mig gun. I think what might be controlling the heat is that the gun is a 400a Tregakiss. Sure would like to lose the nozzle though. I'll probably keep it on because it's helping to protect the diffuser from splatter.
I don't know what the back end is. Bernard says that it's supposed to be a Tweco #4, but it doesn't look right. Almost looks like a Miller back end.
I don't know what the back end is. Bernard says that it's supposed to be a Tweco #4, but it doesn't look right. Almost looks like a Miller back end.
