That's true. The small tires are also much thinner, so less surface area for a good seal too. I have a couple tires that I've had to add several plugs squeezed in next to the original after finding slow leaks later. They both eventually stopped, but on a really small thin tire like the OP's that might not be as easy to do. But I plug, patch, and replace so many tires that I don't think much about it.
Is this what a tire plug looks like?
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Had my 13th flat tire in 12 months! 8 of those were on virtually new tires. I've burned thru 2 of the HF tire repair kits, bought kit # 3 and 4 yesterday.
I guess because my drive is 2600 ft and it's crusher run...crush and run? Not a single nail, always a little cut between treads.
I carry the repair kit with me and the next set of tires i get with have to be truck tires or something.
I'm looking forward to the time when i never have to leave my woods. Ain't gonna happen!
I guess because my drive is 2600 ft and it's crusher run...crush and run? Not a single nail, always a little cut between treads.
I carry the repair kit with me and the next set of tires i get with have to be truck tires or something.
I'm looking forward to the time when i never have to leave my woods. Ain't gonna happen!
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Looks exactly like the red plugs we get from napa. I have plugged countless small equipment and trailer tires.
Dont know what size tires are on a 160# blower, but I am visualizing something like a wheel barrow tire. a New tire probably wont cost much more than tube.
I agree with others, I'd insist on nothing less than a new tire
Dont know what size tires are on a 160# blower, but I am visualizing something like a wheel barrow tire. a New tire probably wont cost much more than tube.
I agree with others, I'd insist on nothing less than a new tire
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I had a new Acura about 15 years ago with Michelin tires. 3 of 4 of them had problems requiring replacement of the very expensive tires in the first year. I bought tire insurance, never had another problem (still have the car). _knocks on wood_ Murphy's law? Curses? Some vehicles have all the bad luck.
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Yep. Sure are a lot of opinions. That looks like a standard sticky tire plug. I plug lots of heavy construction tires, but plugs just don't hold well in thin wall tires. Tubes work well, but cost almost as much as a cheap tire.
Why not just fix it? It's not a more than a minor 20 minute job to replace the tire with a new one. Or a tube, or another plug. The cost is negligible, too. Altogether that's pretty easy.
It always surprises me how many slow leaks we deal with in our tractor tires. I keep a plug kit handy.
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With a new piece of equipment I would prefer a new tire.
I would not have a tube installed as it will prevent the tire from being repaired with a plug in the futher.
Also most of the tubes that you will find are cheap china constructed tubes that are no better then the tires they are used on.
Tire plugs are an acceptable method of repairing tires, there are numerous brands and styles of tire plugs.
The best ones do require breaking down the tire as they are installed from the inside;
AA Minicomby Repair Units
The others that are inserted from the outside will work much of the time in tires used at lower pressures,
I've never had one hold on any tires used about 60 psi.
I have looked at these;
https://www.amazon.com/Stop-Go-1075-Standard-Plugger/dp/B0018EUDHW
I would not have a tube installed as it will prevent the tire from being repaired with a plug in the futher.
Also most of the tubes that you will find are cheap china constructed tubes that are no better then the tires they are used on.
Tire plugs are an acceptable method of repairing tires, there are numerous brands and styles of tire plugs.
The best ones do require breaking down the tire as they are installed from the inside;
AA Minicomby Repair Units
The others that are inserted from the outside will work much of the time in tires used at lower pressures,
I've never had one hold on any tires used about 60 psi.
I have looked at these;
https://www.amazon.com/Stop-Go-1075-Standard-Plugger/dp/B0018EUDHW
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Thanks all for your opinions and insights. I agree that it is highly questionable, minimally, to have my _new_ machine using a twice-fixed tire, and have conveyed my unhappiness about this with the dealer. At this point he assures me his guys have gone over this poorly assembled blower with a fine tooth comb and that he will stand by the work and the now tube-bearing tire.
Given that they have my money, that the manufacturer (BillyGoat) doesn't even provide phone numbers to call, the dealer appears to be my sole remedy. If it works without issue going forward I'll accept fate, if it fails me one more time in the near future the dealer will be getting an earful and public forums will have his name/business associated with this tale of substandard product quality if he fails to deliver a suitable remedy. I'll probably post a BillyGoat review in a lawnsite forum, I was under the impression it was a premium brand (them and Little Wonder) of blower, but clearly they dropped the ball building this unit and I am very unimpressed.
At this point I hold the manufacturer more to blame than the dealer, and the dealer, while not replacing the tire, _seems_ to be trying to deal effectively with the situation.
Of course a pandemic year makes all this even more difficult, there weren't many local dealers of either BillyGoat or LittleWonder that had much in the way of stock, or could even commit to a decent timeline of when they could get units by ordering. So part of my purchase was a "bird in the hand" mentality since I had messes to clean up ASAP.
Given that they have my money, that the manufacturer (BillyGoat) doesn't even provide phone numbers to call, the dealer appears to be my sole remedy. If it works without issue going forward I'll accept fate, if it fails me one more time in the near future the dealer will be getting an earful and public forums will have his name/business associated with this tale of substandard product quality if he fails to deliver a suitable remedy. I'll probably post a BillyGoat review in a lawnsite forum, I was under the impression it was a premium brand (them and Little Wonder) of blower, but clearly they dropped the ball building this unit and I am very unimpressed.
At this point I hold the manufacturer more to blame than the dealer, and the dealer, while not replacing the tire, _seems_ to be trying to deal effectively with the situation.
Of course a pandemic year makes all this even more difficult, there weren't many local dealers of either BillyGoat or LittleWonder that had much in the way of stock, or could even commit to a decent timeline of when they could get units by ordering. So part of my purchase was a "bird in the hand" mentality since I had messes to clean up ASAP.
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This is the only tire plug that will never leak.
The dealer may have put tube in your tire because it may have unseen damage inside of it.
It is not unusual to insert a wick type plug at a different angle than the puncture and that creates another hole inside the tire for air to escape.
The dealer may have put tube in your tire because it may have unseen damage inside of it.
It is not unusual to insert a wick type plug at a different angle than the puncture and that creates another hole inside the tire for air to escape.
