It's a boy! (Good) but he has a screw loose. (Bad)

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BAGTIC

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It\'s a boy! (Good) but he has a screw loose. (Bad)

Got my PT425 late Friday afternoon. My wife insisted on being the first to initiate it so she took a couple of passes around the front yard and parked it as it was getting dark.

Next day I mowed the yard. It took 3.6 hours and another 20 minutes to put away all the accessories and clean up the pallets, etc. Only problem was that the mower stalled twice when it got wrapped up with long grass straw. The yard had not been mowed since we moved in on 4 April (and who knows how long before that) so some of the grass was tall (24-36 inches). Thanks goodness it wasn't very dense most places. The soil is rocky and it has been unusually dry and cool so far this spring. My wife could tell I was pleased when she drove in from work. She said it was all over my face.

Day two. I decided to rotortill the garden site. The soil is very hard dry clay with a generous assortment of rocks, up to potato size. Trying to till to max depth in one pass proved futile so I decided to set tiller just deep enough to dig up the old grass for the first pass. Having used a walking type tiller before, I had sprayed the grass with hebicide three times in three weeks to kill it and its roots (only half-way successful. What are they NOT putting in herbicide nowadays?). I mowed it first to prevent the tines from balling up with long stalks.

It didn't make any difference. The tiller rotor kept stalling, stopped and wouldn't turn even when I lifted it. Eight times in 1.5 hours. I shut down the tractor and checked to see that it was not tangled. It was not. What I found was that simply turning the rotor by hand a couple of inches and restarting the tractor fixed it, until next time. Ocassionally the rotor would not turn forward but turning it backard 1-2 inches unlocked it and then it turned fine. Any ideas what the problem is. It reminds me of a car that won't start because of a broken tooth on the starter/flywheel. If one turns it by hand until the good teeth catch again they will start right up. I don't have any idea how these hydraulic motors work. Could it be something similar?

Also, when I turned the rotor/tines by hand I noticed that ALMOST EVERY bolt was so loose (1/2 to 2 turns) that it needed two wrenches to tighten them, one for the bolt, one for the nut. Is this typical of PT quality control?
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ALMOST EVERY bolt was so loose (1/2 to 2 turns) that it needed two wrenches to tighten them, one for the bolt, one for the nut. Is this typical of PT quality control?
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<font color="red"> /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Y E S ! ! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Upon delivery, and before using your PT, YOU MUST:

Check Engine Oil
Check Engine Air Filter
Grease All Fittings
Check Throttle Operation (Use Full Throttle 99% Of The Time!)
Check Choke Operation
Check All Electrical Connections
Check Battery Fluid Level
Check for Oil or Hydraulic Leaks
Check Hydraulic Tank Level
Check and Tighten All Hydraulic Connectors
Check That All Wires, Hoses, and Fuel Lines Are Routed Away From Hot Parts
Verify That Hydraulic Cooling Fan Operates After Warm-Up
Check and Tighten All Nuts and Bolts
Adjust Tire Pressures to 7# Rear and 11# Front
Consider Reversing Wheels
Check Treadle Operation (Consider Installing Treadle Springs or Cords)
Learn Joystick Operation
Buy and Install Suicide Knob
Adjust Seat Belt for Largest Operator, Then Remove Excess Webbing
Check All Bolts, Hydraulics, and Adjustments on All Attachments BEFORE Use
ALWAYS WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT!
DO NOT MOUNT, OR DISMOUNT, WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING!

Now, hopefully, you can begin to operate your PT without hurting the PT or yourself!!

PS: HAVE FUN!!

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<font color="red"> Upon delivery, and before using your PT, YOU MUST: </font>

Do you think its worthwhile removing the wheels and checking everything out behind them?
 
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On the arrival of my 425 and attachments all were in great condition with no bolts loose. Wonder what happened?
PJ
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Do you think its worthwhile removing the wheels and checking everything out behind them? )</font>


<font color="red">Sure! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Check everything out when you remove the wheels to reverse them!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif</font>
 
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( Wonder what happened?
PJ )


<font color="red"> Not only did they tighten the nuts and bolts, but they also bolted in a nice Kohler engine and a steel gas tank too!! But that was before the latest round of 'improvements'!! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

PS: The trick is to assume that nothing was done right, and hope to find that nothing was done wrong!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
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<font color="blue">Check everything out when you remove the wheels to reverse them!! </font>

Thanks, I'll check them out! However, since I'm going to be doing commercial work in people's back yards I'll have to keep my wheels as they are so I can easily get the tractor into the standard 48" yard gate.
 
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That is the one thing that still bugs me about Power Trac. Mine came with no problems. Yours came with no problems. I feel badly about recommending them seeing all the problems that people are having right off the truck. While people seem to be happy with the work they can do once the bugs are worked out, but the bugs shouldn't be there in the first place. Slag in the hydraulic tank, caulk in the fuel tank, vapor lock, bad cooling fans, loose bolts... AAARRRGH! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

PT needs to address these issues quickly. Machines should never leave the factory in that condition. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
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When your roto tiller or mower stalls is it bogging down from the load or does it seem like the PTO solenoid is not fully engaging when you flip the PTO switch?

Dale
 
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When I bought my 422 in Nov 1999, they mentioned something about the PTO pilot valve needing to be cleaned if I had any problems with the PTO. I had to clean mine once shortly after I got it. Everything has been fine since then.
 

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