Tiller Japanese Tillers

   / Japanese Tillers #1  

fishstixtwo

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Erie Pa.
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YM180D
I am in the market for a used tiller. I am probably going to buy a japanese unit. I recently saw one dealer's add stating that tillers were discarded in japan because they are designed to work in mud, and would not work in our soil. Any thoughts on this?
 
   / Japanese Tillers #2  
Rich - I have heard the same thing. I guess the land that they tend to farm has been tilled for a long time, and has very few rocks.

A year ago, I looked at a few, and most did not even have a sheer pin or clutch.

I would think that it boils down to what type of soil you are going to use yours in...
 
   / Japanese Tillers #3  
<font color="blue"> I recently saw one dealer's add stating that tillers were discarded in japan because they are designed to work in mud, and would not work in our soil. Any thoughts on this?
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I think that dealer should run for Congress! I've read that six times and I still don't know what that dealer was saying! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

In Japan there is as much dirt as mud. I have seen those tillers working in the rice paddies...and have seen a lot of soil that was obviously turned with a tiller too. I have no idea if the same tine design is used, or if there are differences in design between a rice paddy tiller and an earth tiller.

But I can tell you with certainty that Japanese farmers do a lot more than just grow things in mud, under water...

And turning mud did look like a very light duty application...

Can't really help with your question, except to say that there is a lot of dry soil tilled by something in Japan. Anyone that thinks all that is grown in Japan is rice is not on target. No doubt in my mind that tillers used in dirt there would work in dirt here as well.

Are you looking at a "grey market" tiller? If so the real question is: Is there a difference between a tiller that is used in a rice paddy and a tiller used in dirt in Japan".

If there is a difference, you probably would be wise to get one that is designed for dirt.
 
   / Japanese Tillers #4  
Although I have had no personal experience with Japanese tillers, I have heard they are very good and reasonably priced. One Japanese exporter, SANKO, says they ship one with every tractor, so there should be a lot of them out there.
 
   / Japanese Tillers #5  
A neighbor bought what he thinks is a Yanmar at auction for $250. Says it works just fine and the reason he isn't sure it's a Yanmar is because most of the decals are worn off and what's left is in Japanese which he can't read. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / Japanese Tillers #6  
The Yanmar tiller that I have, has different tines than what you'd see on a domestic unit. The ones sold here from what I've seen have, an "L" shaped tine. Where as mine are shaped more like a hand sickle blade, curved somewhat bent. I have used it for 2 years now in my garden and the neighbors. I think it works great. Tills about 8" deep. I have mostly clay here to use it on, and couldn't be happier. Beats a front tine walk behind thats gathering dust in the shed /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Japanese Tillers #7  
I too saw this characterization of Japanese tillers recently.

My comment to the CFO (who just LOVES hearing all about tractors 24/7 /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif) is that if the dealer is importing their own container loads from Japan, leaving the tillers behind could mean at least one more tractor per load; and I'll bet the margin on the tractors is higher than on the tillers. Mind you this is just a guess based on zero personal tractor experience /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif, and even if true, doesn't imply that what the dealer in question says isn't.
 
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This will be a grey market tiller that I plan to purchace. Will be looking for a Yanmar brand to use on my 180D. I know there have been a lot of them imported. This is why I don't understand why anyone would make a statement like that. I guess I will just ignore it and continue my search as planned.
Thank all of you for your help.
 
   / Japanese Tillers #9  
Good luck in your search. If you find the truth, post it. We'd all like to know.
 
   / Japanese Tillers #10  
fishstix,
I have used several of the grey market tillers, yanmar, iseki and mistsubishi. The land I bought is heavy clay soil with a thin loam layer on top. I tilled down 4 acres of alfalfa sod to make my lawn and the tillers worked great! First pass is slow and chews it up, second pass pulverizes and does a really nice job preparing seed beds. I am the most popular guy in the neighborhood in the spring. I till a lot of gardens.
My two cents worth!
Nick
 
 

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