JD 110tlb Hydrostatic drive problem

[dpalmer]

We have a JD 110tlb with 400 hours on it. When moving forward or backwards the machine will just stop, the pedals (forward or reverse) stop responding and seem to have no pressure. The service light on the dash does flash. The problem is intermittent and thus we have yet to see the entire flash series on the service light. We have a colleague with a 110tlb that is having the same problem. Any ideas?

 

[CurlyDave]

The only times I have had anything remotely similar to this happen to me is when the transmission selector lever has been bumped out of a range, and is in neutral.

It appears much too easy to do this for my preference. I have taken to making certain it is firmly in the correct range every time I shift it, but it still is either bumped easily, or maybe jumps out of the correct range and into a neutral position.

I only have ~ 200 hrs, so I may not have seen your problem yet.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Your going to want to get it in the shop right away. If the tranny is starting to eat itself up your problems are only going to get worse and cost more to fix later. 110's are known for having an abnormal amount transmission problems.

 

[AKfish]

I seem to recall some transmission problems with the early 110's that used a "nearly identical" 4610 engine-drivetrain when Deere came out with them.

Thought that Deere had re-engineered the tranny and noted that they went to the larger 4TN88 engine, too.

Sure hope so... just signed my name to a new 110 and hope to see it in the next 5-6 weeks.

AKfish

 

[thewizard]

Messick, lets not jump to conclusions of tranny failure so quickly. Dpalmer, a couple things, when unit stops and sitting still does flash codes quit and unit works again? If so, then look at positioning of seat switch. So next time, make a good effort on rear end applying consistent pressure and as you continue, bring seat forward paying extra attention to seat pressure. If this does not correct, then have dealer re-program you pentionmeter. I would not worry about it being a severe problem.

And messick, what tranny woes you referring to? I know of no instance of TLB's having transmission issues.

 

[dpalmer]

Wizard - Thanks for the input, unfortunately when the unit stops and sits the flash code does quit, but the unit does not necessarily go back to operating, probably the longest delay we've had is 30 seconds or so before operation will resume, but sometimes its immeidate. Our shop foreman did check out the seat switch and found nothing out of the ordinary, however we may replace just to eliminate.

I have drained fluid, change filters, and cleaned hydraulic intake screen. Found nothing out of the ordinary and nothing changed.

Curly Dave - I will check the tranny range selector and see if I can duplicate with positioning of it.

Thanks everyone.

Messick, lets not jump to conclusions of tranny failure so quickly. Dpalmer, a couple things, when unit stops and sitting still does flash codes quit and unit works again? If so, then look at positioning of seat switch. So next time, make a good effort on rear end applying consistent pressure and as you continue, bring seat forward paying extra attention to seat pressure. If this does not correct, then have dealer re-program you pentionmeter. I would not worry about it being a severe problem.

And messick, what tranny woes you referring to? I know of no instance of TLB's having transmission issues.

 

[AKfish]

dpalmer --- there's a good thread on this forum regarding the JD 110. Do a search on "JD 110 TLB purchase".

Long story - short - a few 110's had to have the "potieometer" (can't spell..)
adjusted or readjusted but no major blow-ups or catastrophic failures.

My research thru and thru these forums mentioned some dissatisfaction with the bushing's and slop in the loader and hoe, undercarriage exposure (need bellypan) and some hitch's with the tranny - adjustment.

Other than that ---- it's too expensive!!! But after lookin' at the new Kubota M59... whew! There's a new definition of expensive -- right there!

Best of luck in figurin' out yur glitch --- let us hear how it goes.

AKfish

 

[CurlyDave]

My research thru and thru these forums mentioned some dissatisfaction with the bushing's and slop in the loader and hoe, undercarriage exposure (need bellypan) and some hitch's with the tranny - adjustment.

I read these forums for about a year before a bought, and what I discovered was that JD makes a belly pan for the 110. It was about $700 two years ago.

I bought the 110 over the L39 based on which dealership I felt more comfortable with.

I don't have any reference, but the bushings seem just about right to me, and the 4-n-1 bucket behaves just about as I expected.

I did look over an L39 pretty carefully when I was caught in stop & go traffic for about half an hour and the guy in the lane next to me had one on a trailer. There were a few areas where I felt the 110 was definitely better.

Outrigger feet: the 110 has reversible ones good for both dirt & pavement. L39 only has pavement type.

Bushings & pins: the ones on the L39 looked substantially smaller than one the 110.

Plus the 110 has the creeper feature to reposition the machine while seated in the hoe operator position. I know it is possible to achieve the same effect by defeating a safety and diddling the throttle with a crutch, but if you should ever have an accident, some lawyer is going to get rich if you do that.

And, the HST beats the shuttle shift.

Add the cost of an HST (if you could get one) and a real creeper to the L39 price and you a pretty close to the 110.

 

[Superduper]

Don't know if the hydro on the 110 is electric or not but there are a bunch of sensors that needs to be right for the computer to know what to do. Any sensor feedback that confuses the computer and it's liable to just "flash" at you and prevent operation. Obviously, you can't press the forward and reverse pedal at the same time and you can't be standing while riding. You also can't be between gears or in neutral. I'm sure there are more.

In short, if this is a e-hydro, it might not necessarily be a major mechanical failure but might be a more simple electronic sensor needing adjustment or replacement. On my e-hydro, I kept getting a error-8 code which translated to throttle position sensor. Performance at the pedals was craps when this occurred and checked, adjusted TPS several times. Finally diagnosed it to be the wire terminal loose at the TPS sensor connector making intermittent contact. Fixed that and never had a problem since. At the time, however, it was frustrating and scary when tranny didn't want to work.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

And messick, what tranny woes you referring to? I know of no instance of TLB's having transmission issues.

I don't know specifics, one of our service managers came from a Deere dealership and at the mention of the 110 his eyes roll and he gives a real look of disgust. Apparently he had several that where real problems.

 

[AKfish]

I'm only referring to previous comments that go all the way back to 2002 -- i.e. excess bushing play, etc.

I haven't noticed very many concerns being voiced here since then... and the tranny issues were frustrating but relatively minor in nature.

I looked at Kubota real seriously. Local dealer had a used L39 on the lot. I went over there several times and then went down the road to compare it with a 110 that the local "yellow" dealer has.

My assessment was pretty straightforward --- I put money down on a new 110!

I also got a quote on a new M59. Real impressive lookin' machine! But it's easily $5-7K more than a similarily configured 110.

Don't know what I would have decided if there would have been a L48 around, though...

AKfish

 

[CurlyDave]

Don't know what I would have decided if there would have been a L48 around, though...

I have to agree with that.

But, the L48 is even more expensive, and the JD dealer gave me a much better feeling than the Kubota dealer. And, the service has been good.

 

[jenkinsph]

I bought a new 110 in 2005 and have had the same issue with the transmission going out of gear. It is most likely the seat presence switch, when I lean forward while hooking up forks or bucket it will cut out on me. One of the irritating things on most equipment today. I have the Laurin cab on my unit and I agree with the poster that moving the seat forward may solve the problem for you.






Steve

 

[KennedyDiesel]

Does the TLB have a seat switch? I have my seat switch jumpered (poorly) and it occasionally loses connection and stops immediately. Could it be so simple?

 

[Tags]

When I had my 110 the tranny did that ALOT the first few times I ran it and as others have said, the seat switch was the culprit. I ended up jumping it, and no more problems. It really seemed that it was super sensitive and if you were traversing rough terrain your arse would bounce on the seat and trip the switch and stall the transmission, plus the thing was a major PIA when you wanted to stand up when hooking up forks or the bucket. Jump the switch and give her a try and hopefully your issues will be solved.

 

[Diesel Dude]

Hello,

I have had the same problem with my 2007 TLB 110. After reasearching the issue for a while I found out that it was a simple problem in my case. The toggle switch for the backhoe creep mode was sticking in either the forward or reverse position.

Cheers

 

[AKfish]

Hello,

I have had the same problem with my 2007 TLB 110. After reasearching the issue for a while I found out that it was a simple problem in my case. The toggle switch for the backhoe creep mode was sticking in either the forward or reverse position.

Cheers

Hmmm... this is an old thread but you've presented another way the 110TLB tranny could act up. Another thing to consider for us 110 owner's should the pedals not want to work the way they should.

Thanks for the head's up.

I've got around 425 hrs. on my 110 and have been using it for about 18 months with no significant issues -- (knock on forehead)!

I have not had problems with the tranny range selector slipping out of gear: as was mentioned by the previous posters, either. Thankfully....

Besides the seat switch being pretty sensitive (I've had to dial back the seat suspension stiffness) the only time I've had a problem with the pedals going to neutral is when I have accidently stepped on both pedals at the same time. The tractor quits responding and the little orange manual flashes on the console. Let up on the pedal, wait a second and start all over.

AKfish

 

[MarcMD]

I Had to replace the "MFWD speed sensor" (item 53 in the pictogram on the JD site,TRANSAXLE HOUSING AND REAR COVER) a couple of times. The tractor was not getting to a complete stop but is would not pick up speed, it was only crawling.

 

[Tom110TLB]

Had problems with the tractor drive hesitating in all ranges and regardless of forward/ reverse or pedal position. Changed the sensor near the MFWD, and after the tractor warmed up, the problem returned. Put the one I'd removed in place of the engine speed sensor (some 110 tractors use a signal from the alternator, mine uses a sensor) and the problem was solved. I'd done all the normal things, check fluid, jump the seat switch, etc. Just want to thank you folks for posting what you had found. Saved me a paying to have the tractor hauled and then $110.00 per hour for labor. The sensor is available on Amazon Genuine Deere # LVA17409.