JD 214 looses power after 30m of running

   / JD 214 looses power after 30m of running #1  

cbrake

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Marshallville
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Ford 860, JD 214
Just got a JD 214 mower and working through the first tank of gas.

Overall, runs and mows well. It smokes a little when I rev the engine, but have not noticed any smoke under mower load. However, multiple times now after mowing for awhile (30m or so on a hot day) the engine looses power and RPM drops. If I turn off the mower deck, it will still sputter, but when I throttle down, it recovers and seems to run smooth again. I can sometimes mow another pass before it looses power again, and sometimes its quicker. I can typically drive it back to the garage (blades off) and it runs ok then.

Another other thing I've noticed is if I throttle up, and then down, the engine RPM stays up for a long time (not sure if this is typical). It seems there is a decent sized flywheel in the machine.

Appreciate any ideas where to start? My first guess is a fuel delivery problem. I just ordered a service manual, so just starting to get familiar with the machine.

Thanks,
Cliff
 
   / JD 214 looses power after 30m of running #2  
I had one of those for years , sounds like your coil is crapping out , do you have the electric clutch ? when you shut it off it allows the coil more power so you can limp it back to garage . hope that helps .
 
   / JD 214 looses power after 30m of running #3  
could also need points and condenser set too
 
   / JD 214 looses power after 30m of running
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#4  
could also need points and condenser set too

I assume it has a mechanical clutch (lever by steering wheel). Thanks for the idea -- I'll try to check spark next time it has a fit.
 
   / JD 214 looses power after 30m of running #5  
That lever to the right of the steering wheel is the speed variator lever that changes the ground speed within any of the four gears. The clutch is the pedal on the left that is also connected to the variator speed control but when pushed all the way down allows changing between gears or putting the tranny into neutral.

The engine speed (rpm) is controlled by the throttle on the dash.

Almost sounds like an engine governor problem with the Kohler engine, but could be several things as already mentioned.
 
   / JD 214 looses power after 30m of running
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#6  
after looking under the hood more, found the coil flopping around under the battery -- the bracket is broke. After re-mounting the coil, we've not had any fits as described above.

However, after today's mowing session, the starter won't turn over -- won't even click when I turn the key. Ran fine up to the point I shut it off. Thinking a safety switch must be bad or something else vibrated loose ...
 
   / JD 214 looses power after 30m of running
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#7  
never closed the loop on the starter problem -- brushes were wore out and came apart -- replaced brushes, and starter now works again ...
 
   / JD 214 looses power after 30m of running #8  
:thumbsup: thanks for the update. Nice to hear that the "loop" closed.
 
   / JD 214 looses power after 30m of running #9  
These ideas are good. I will try for my John Deere 318
 

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