JD 3720 vs NH TC33DA

[Homeboy]

You all are great - the little points that you learn in these discussions make the difference ...

I went and checked out the 3720 back to back with the TC33DA and the 3720 was definitely more comfortable for me (because I'm qute tall, I suspect). The NH was good, but the JD was better ...

I also concluded that the 3720 had some advantages for loader work (it helped that I met a guy who used to sell NH) - again, the NH could be excellent, but I preferred the JD. I did like the design of the NH arms (and their one piece construction) but concluded it wasn't a decision point issue.

The JD also mounted the backhoe to the frame instead of subframe, which seemed better - opinions? It certainly left more clearance and seemed stronger.

I was advised that on the NH you MIGHT be able to leave the 3-point hitch on with the backhoe, instead of removing it every time - a nice convenience if possible - anybody know?

I did like the SuperSteer a lot, but there were issues manuvering a FEL in tight spaces. I've decided that if I mow I'll buy a separate mower.

So, I think I've really decided on the 3720 mainly because of the power ... but I still have not bitten the bullet ...

The JD salesman has advised me against adding the telescoping links (I don't want IMatch because I'll rent most implements). He feels most implements are easily hand manuvered into place, and the arms get dirty etc. Any opinions on this?

 

[rockyridgefarm]

On the hoe mount, I knew NOTHING about Deere's setup when I got mine,. But it is nothing short of amazing. Removing the arms is a GOOD thing, it allows the hoe to get closer to the tractor, and only takes a couple of minutes. The whole swap for the loader or hoe is a very fast and easy deal.

I have never heard a single complaint about the telescopic draft links. That said, get the std. ones, and add them later, if you want them. There is no difference in price, and you end up with a spare set.

 

[pdub]

The JD also mounted the backhoe to the frame instead of subframe, which seemed better - opinions? It certainly left more clearance and seemed stronger.

I like the subframe on the NH because it ties into the loader subframe and takes all of the load off the tractor frame. This is done so there isn't a large amount of torsion on the tractor frame. Personally, I fell this is a more durable and reliable setup.

In my experience flex link ends are essential, especially if you aren't going with the iMatch. Unless you participate in one of those strong man competitions, you won't be able to lift some rear implements to hook them up. Even on my little TZ it would come in handy. Your Deere dealer was probably steering you clear of this because it is a $406 option (according to JD website).

 

[rockyridgefarm]

$210 = are you moixing up with the midpto?

 

[timb]

The extendable links are worth every penny. That 3720 will be able to handle some heavy implements, and those links wil make the job far easier. That ain't no garden tractor. I've had zero trouble with mine. NH includes them as standard and IMO Deere should do so as well.

But the advice about buying later is good (double check the prices both ways to be sure) - I paid the same for mine (added before delivery) as other folks did later off the shelf - and they still have their standard arms for backup if ever needed.

 

[HuskerInVA]

I concur on the extendable links. Get them. They are worth it and really should be standard. I got mine separate from the tractor and now I have the spare set just in case I break something.

 

[Dutch445]

Don't forget about the Pat's Easy Change system if you are unsure about the extendable links, or don't want the I-Match. They offer a nice compromise.
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[MessickFarmEqu]

For loader subframes I think Woods has been building more advanved mounts than any of the OEM companies. Most of their new 4pt frames are mid mount mower compatible and don't require removal of the 3pt arms. They make mounts for just about any tractor. Bradco makes simular kits.

 

[Homeboy]

Messick,

can you explain this a little further to me, as the alternative ways to put a tractor together are foreign to me? Are you saying you would buy a bare (NH/JD) tractor and a separate woods subframe and backhoe, then attach the subframe and backhoe?

I am assuming a direct frame attachment (JD method) is superior to using a subframe (NH method) as the main frame is more rugged. Is this not correct?

I also see you are a NH dealer Messick, so I'd be interested in your opinion of the JD 3720 versus the NH TC33 - as previously mentioned, I'm probably not interested in the bigger NH tractors because they jump up in physical size

- the JD dealer has dropped the price to match the NH, so I'm definitely planning on that one currently (I probably already was, because it was significantly more powerful, seemed more rugged construction, and was more comfortable to sit on).

thanks