JD 7000 planter vs. 71 model
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Farmwithjunk
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LabLuvR said:
In order to effectively no-till plant, the planter itself has to be, among other things, a LOT heavier than a conventional planter. There has to be enough weight there to force the coulters or disc openers into untilled ground. A 7000, if PROPERLY equipped as a no-till planter, would be a hefty load for many compact tractors. The 7000 MaxEmerge planter is sort of the "small block Chevy" of planters. There are thousands of aftermarket accessories available for them. They were the gold standard amongst plateless planters for years. They are all that and a bag of chips IF you understand how to set one up and operate it.
The #71 is the epitomy of simplicity, functionality, dependability, and planting accuracy for a plate type planter. Most seed corn growers used 71's until just recently because of how gently they delivered seed. They are easy for the beginner to understand. There's just not a lot to go wrong with them.
We're comparing the Space Shuttle to a Cessna 172 here. If you just need to "short hop" and not fly to the space station, the #71 is a better choice in my book. If you plan on planting 100's of acres, have a strict time table to follow, and have the expendable cash to afford the 7000 in the first place, why not? But again, for the average person, the #71 is far and a way the best choice.
Thanks Farm,
With my 37hp tractor I guess I will focus on the 71 model. I need something idiot proof that will work in a small scale food plot business. I've a lot to learn about planters I see. In the past I've broadcasted and done quite well. But if I enter the foodplot business I need to have my act together and use some type of planter.
With my 37hp tractor I guess I will focus on the 71 model. I need something idiot proof that will work in a small scale food plot business. I've a lot to learn about planters I see. In the past I've broadcasted and done quite well. But if I enter the foodplot business I need to have my act together and use some type of planter.
sunspot
Gold Member
LabLuvR
Not meaning to hijack your thread.
Farmwithjunk.
Is there a comparable brand, model to the JD71? I want to keep my eye out for a planter. Due to your great explanation, the 71 is on my list.
Not meaning to hijack your thread.
Farmwithjunk.
Is there a comparable brand, model to the JD71? I want to keep my eye out for a planter. Due to your great explanation, the 71 is on my list.
Farmwithjunk
Super Member
LabLuvR said:
One big advantage the 7000's will have over most of the #71 units I'm seeing is the fact that the 7000's USUALLY come equipped with a fertilizer attachment. It's very advantageous when planting/growing corn to be able to sideband fertilizer while planting. You can always broadcast fertilizer before planting, but the majority lands in between rows where it does little good. Young corn plants need the kickstart of having fertilizer within a few inches of the roots.
Farmwithjunk
Super Member
sunspot said:
International Harvester had a similar unit planter. I don't recall the model #. Cole made a decent version. Yetter built the 71 for Deere. When Deere dropped the 71 from their line-up, Yetter bought sales rights and continues to build the 71. Just get ready for a severe case of sticker shock.
During the heydays of the #71 planters, Deere had more than 60% of market share. (with their entire line of planters) IH was second, but a distant second. In an article I read in a magazine a while back, Deere sold 5 rows to every 2 IH sold. Numbers then work in favor of the #71 now. There's just a lot more green survivors.
Farmwithjunk
Super Member
LabLuvR said:
Very limited numbers manufactured. "Hard to locate" is a gross understatement. Downright IMPOSSIBLE to locate would come closer to the facts. I've seen a total of FOUR planters using #71 units with OEM fertilizer attachments. I've been trying for the better part of 5 years to find 2 rows worth. No luck so far.
Redbug
Veteran Member
I'm another watching the planter threads closely. Thanks for asking about the 7000 vs 71, LabLuvR, I was wondering also. I am looking at buying a planter and have been looking around, also. Thanks FarmWJunk.
If you are looking to earn a profit planting small plots with a 2-row planter, you might want to consider an even older planter like the JD model 246 because they come with fertilizer attachments. The model 71 2-rows are nearly impossible to find with fertilizer attachments. The rising cost of fertilizer has made broadcasting fertilizer on row crops very expensive compared to dropping it only on the rows where it does the most good. Model 71's are much better suited for larger row applications (6,8,12, etc) where on-row liquid fertilizer is used (not an economical option for little 2-row units). This is why FWJ got his MF planter and is looking to dump the 71 2-row.
I have liquid fertilizer rigged up on my 71 Flex 4 row planter and it cost about $350 to get set up for the pump, hose, and the rheostat thing to control the pump, plus the tank. So not a real big expense for the few acres I do, it costs more but is simple. If you broadcast the fertilizer and then rig up an infurrow treatment with your planter, it might be as simple as you are going to get.
Farmwithjunk
Super Member
wolc123 said:
WRONG! I got the MF#39 because I'm attemting to find all the implements that would have been available for the MF150 (tractor) at the time it was new. I'll use it to plant a popcorn crop this year, yes, but more from a nostalgia rationale than any other reason. Dumping? Far from that. Originally, I purchased my #71's NEW as an asssembled 4-row planter. I took it apart to use as a 2-row for planting sweet corn when I quit planting a corn crop a few years ago. My son is planning on planting about 60 acres of feed corn and approx. 25 acres of soybeans this year. He wanted to re-assemble the 4-row planter for that. I just purchased a few #70 Deere Flex planter units to build up a 2-row planter, which I will finally add a Cole sidebander fertilizer attachment that I have located. The 70/71 planter is so far superior to any other conventional plate planters in their price range (and below) that I'll find a way to get the fertilizer where it needs to go.
Farmwithjunk
Super Member
Tritonman said:
That's what I did with my 4-row #71's when I was still farming. I had a pair of 60 gallon tanks, mounted saddle style on each side of the tractor (w/ a frame underslung from the loader mounting points of the tractor) , a pto pump, and applicator knives 3" to the side of each row. I used a very simple 1/4" ball valve to throttle down the flow to regulate the volume of product. It worked to perfection for the 15 years I used that arraingment. The issue with that in many cases would be finding an adaquate supply of liquid fertilizer of the correct type if you lived in a non crop farming area.
With the increase in popularity of smaller 2-row planters of recent years, especially for the hobby farming market, I wouldn't be at all suprised to see an aftermarket add-on fertilizer attachment, much like the old Cole sideband applicator. Hmmmm! Time to put my thinking cap on!
With the cost of fertilizer an attachment to the planter would almost be a must have item. I need to find me a planter with the fert hoppers. Makes no sense to waste precious fert if I can help it, just too high priced these days.
SCDolphin
Gold Member
Good News
Yetter who now makes the JD 71 says someone has just started to make an aftermarket fert for the Yetter 71. Go on Yetters website and you can DL the owner manual for the Yetter 71. A lot of the pictures are green and yellow ie copied right out of the JD manual. I just received this info from Yetter about the after market fert hopper but won't get back to my home computer with the link for next few days. I will try to email the letter from Yetter to RedBug who could post the link.
Yetter who now makes the JD 71 says someone has just started to make an aftermarket fert for the Yetter 71. Go on Yetters website and you can DL the owner manual for the Yetter 71. A lot of the pictures are green and yellow ie copied right out of the JD manual. I just received this info from Yetter about the after market fert hopper but won't get back to my home computer with the link for next few days. I will try to email the letter from Yetter to RedBug who could post the link.
Redbug
Veteran Member
This is the letter from Yetter that SCDolphin, (Hugh), got about adding an aftermarket fertilizer option to the model 71. Someone does offer an add on for that model! We need to find out prices, though.
Hugh,
Jason Chute, Territory Manager
PO Box 358
Colchester, IL 62326
800-447-5777 , 309-776-4111
Fax: 309-776-3222 / Welcome to Yetter Farm Equipment
Hugh,
I don't have a complete parts price list for this item. I can give you prices if you tell me what parts you are needing. Here is a link to our manual for that planter so you can identify the part #'s needed.
Are you looking to side dress liquid or dry? If dry, you can call Holland Trasplanter, they have developed a 2 row dry system to go with our planter. Phone # 616-392-3579 and you would want to speak with Hugh. If you are looking for liquid we have fertilizer coulters you could buy from us but you would need a pump and other stuff also.
If you have any other questions, feel free to call me.
Best regards,
Yetter Manufacturing Company Jason Chute, Territory Manager
PO Box 358
Colchester, IL 62326
800-447-5777 , 309-776-4111
Fax: 309-776-3222 / Welcome to Yetter Farm Equipment
